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I believe over the course of the next 9 - 12 months this number will start to look more like 75% / 25%.
Safari is only available on OS X and wasn't always the defualt browser (can't remember when that started). IE 5 was the default browser since, what, OS 8.6? Netscape was the default prior to that.
So my guess would be a close to equal split between IE5 and Safari as the most popular.
9.3 million active Mac OS X users, which he said accounts for 40% of all Mac users.
I don't think it's wise to extrapolate from this figure. A newer Mac is more likely to be connected to the Internet. Also, people who use the Internet a lot are more likely to have a new Mac than their casual counterparts.
My general advice to PC-folks setting up a Mac test machine: Make sure your machine can boot into both OS X and OS 9 (some of their new ones don't). Make sure your machine has native USB, so you can plug in your spare mice, etc.
I will try to be fair here and use stats from December, only because I surf our site alot while working on things, so this can skew the data dramatically. In most of December I was away on vacation and only browsed our site when necessary to complete admin functions.
I am also attempting to look at only Mac users.
During this period total Mac users accounted for 50.9% of our traffic.
Now we'll just look at that 50.9% as the new base (taking out Windows and all other OSes):
Operating System of Mac users:
OS X: 60.64%
OS 9: 39.36%
Browsers of All Mac Users:
Safari: 51.65%
IE 5.2.3: 6.55%
IE 5.2.2: 10.32%
IE 5.2.1: 2.18%
IE 5.2.0: .09%
(total IE 5.2.x: 19.14%)
IE 5.1.7: 2.57%
IE 5.1.6: 2.29%
IE 5.1.5: .27%
IE 5.1.4: 2.02%
IE 5.1.3: 1%
IE 5.1.2: .37%
(total IE 5.1.x: 8.52%)
Other: 20.69%
Browsers of OS X Users:
Safari: 85.18%
IE 5.2.3: 10.8%
IE 5.2.2: 17.01%
IE 5.2.1: 3.59%
IE 5.2.0: .15%
(total IE 5.2.x: 31.55%)
Browsers of OS 9 Users:
total IE 5.1.x: 21.65%
Other: 78.35%
The OS X browser listing adds to over 116%, so either my thinking that IE 5.2.x is OS X only is incorrect, or there are some non-mac users or agents masking themselves as IE 5.2.x
Looking at those stats that you just posted... I can't believe that you've honestly not had any Netscape/Mozilla/Camino/etc. visitors on Mac OS X. I'm wondering if your stats program has accidently grouped them with Safari (it's usually the reverse that happens).
Looking at those stats that you just posted... I can't believe that you've honestly not had any Netscape/Mozilla/Camino/etc. visitors on Mac OS X. I'm wondering if your stats program has accidently grouped them with Safari (it's usually the reverse that happens).
Well my stat program groups all netscape together by version, all mozilla together by version, all IE together by version, etc. The only way I was able to separate out the Mac so much was because IE 5.1.x is OS9 and IE 5.2.x is OS X and Safari is OS X. So the "Other" category I listed would be Netscape, Mozilla, Camino, etc. It makes up over 70% of the OS9 users, but unfortunately since my stat program does not separate browsers by OS and since something is throwing the OS X IE 5.2.x way off, I have no way of telling how many OS X users are netscape, mozilla, etc.