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ASP going extinct?

Is ASP.NET going to phase out asp

         

cheemo

5:49 pm on May 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I noticed our company is outsourcing to have a new website built and they are going to do it in asp. Now I'm not completely on the up and up but I was guessing that microsoft would soon stop supporting ASP and only support ASP.NET. Is ASP ancient technology that people are moving away from or is it still a perfectly viable programming language?

Dreamquick

5:56 pm on May 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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MS probably want to phase it out in favour of their latest offerings but technically speaking its still perfectly viable IMHO, .NET server still runs classic ASP pages fine the last time I checked so its not been phased out yet.

If anything I'd say that if it did become unsupported there would still be lots of sites running ASP code and so still quite a few jobs available for it, and best of all you'd still have a quite a lot of highly skilled people in the marketplace.

Oh and it's been around long enough to become reasonably stable.

Besides when I move away from ASP it will probably be to Apache, PHP & Perl rather than .net - everyone is different but I'm fed up of the "look we made it 'better', please pay us more money for it" culture of MS. Plus there is a lot to be said for a more stable and more configurable environment where licencing costs are less of an issue.

- Tony

sharbel

4:23 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I stopped using ASP for .NET back in early Beta of .NET. I dont think ASP classic is going anywhere for a while though.. a lot of developers are to lazy to learn a new platform.

.NET is sooooo much nicer to work in than any other platform I have used (used em all).. but the simple fact is, there is a LOT of ASP code out there. It will take quite a while to phase it out.

cheemo

1:19 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll agree that ASP is a proven technology and that your right it won't go anywhere because of all the developers still capable. However do you think it makes sense to contract out a new website in ASP, wouldn't it be better to just go with ASP.NET or JSP or PHP. This website is suppose begin with us now and be builded upon for the next 5 years, I thought ASP was probably the last technology I would go with. You guys disagree?

txbakers

1:33 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There's no such thing as a "last technology I'll use" because there are way too many smart people out there creating new technologies all the time.

ASP is great, I love using it. It's fast, stable, and easy to write.

But now I'm migrating to JSP and Java because it offers so much more functionality. ASP.NET (IMO) is a rip off of the JSP platform, but will be very popular as more and more people learn it.

Glad to hear that the 2003 server will still support ASP though.

aspdaddy

1:49 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ASP will have its place, just like many other technologies that are not the latest. Even if m/s stop supporting it, will it matter, how many times do you have to ring them up for help?

>wouldn't it be better to just go with ASP.NET or JSP or PHP

Maybe so but depends on the project, what is required should drive the choice of technology.

garann

5:36 pm on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd think that even if you were writing an app that would work fine in ASP, you'd do it in ASP.NET, since the syntax is cleaner and it offers you nice things like extensive class libraries and try/catch. Most of ASP.NET's other new features (web controls, code behind) are pretty useless, to my mind, since you can get the same things implemented more elegantly and flexibly in JSP (tag libraries and servlets), and I've been fine not using them and keeping most of my complex code in classes. The learning curve's not that steep, so why wouldn't you?

Xoc

8:02 am on May 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think ASP is going anywhere. There are millions of ASP pages on the web already. I've got thousands of pages on my sites. Even though I am doing new development work in ASP.NET, I see absolutely no reason to go back and muck with my existing pages/ASP technology. If ASP were abandoned, then I couldn't upgrade my web server to the latest Microsoft operating system. Microsoft is too smart to let that happen.

Just don't expect any new features in ASP.

RainMaker

9:09 pm on Jun 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Let's put it this way, Goto Microsoft's page and browse around. With almost all the extensions you will see a .asp. My thoughts to that are very comforting if I was an ASP developer. Now if I see more and more .ASPX, Then I would be sweating bullets...haha. If it's good enough for the creators and Microsoft then it's good for me and safe for me to use. Keep in mind there is nothing wrong with using old technology. I will say that with microsoft it's a different story. I say that there is nothing wrong because half of the time you can download updates to old technology to better support the new. If microsoft wants to stick around any longer they must kiss our rears as much as possible because we are the ones that contribute to their existance. So, while the rest of the world is using a better IDE and a new revolution of Web development the rest will be using ASP or JSP. So all in all I wouldn't fret, it's going to be a long time before EVERYONE goes to the new technology and the old becomes obsolete. Look at COBOL. Ancient, but still very alive and well. It has it's place in society too. Ironically like us all people. BTW by the time that everyone has caught up with new technology there is always something that comes out at that very instant that is just a little better or new, isn't there?