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Annoying FP Behavior

Setting pics at h0, w0

         

adfree

2:06 am on Jul 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Whenever I modify something in any FP page it sets random pics (mostly some 5 or 6 out of 10 or so per page) to heighth 0 and width 0. Uploading alwys results in missing pics then and I need to modify manually EVERY TIME.

Bugs me, any resolution? Thanks!

pageoneresults

3:45 am on Jul 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like the img src references are incorrect. Possibly pointing to a directory on your local drive?

Are you publishing through FrontPage or using FTP?

adfree

12:14 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Are you publishing through FrontPage or using FTP?

Both. What happens is that whenever a file is saved only some (not all) images are set at h0, w0 and saved that way although no work was done on them or close areas around the pics.

Now in order to get the right format up I have to copy/paste the code over to the server, page by page...

pageoneresults

12:28 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The only time I've seen the 0/0 issue is when the page is saved and the image reference is incorrect. I'm not sure what is happening in your case. Typically you will see this behavior at the WYSIWYG level. The image will turn into a small placeholder with the red X indicating that the img src is not correct.

adfree

4:47 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, that's not it. I do see the pic just fine, no placeholder or reduction, just the code changes to h0, w0 and thus the uploaded page misses the pics.

pageoneresults

5:15 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When you view the source at the browser level, are the img src references correct? This would of course be after you upload and before you correct the issues.

If they are not correct, what is the img src referencing?

Are your width and height attributes quoted?

P.S. I'm trying to think of everything that would affect the width and height attributes of an image.

adfree

6:31 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Everything correctly attributed, even tried relative and direct links, only thing incorrect after saving is the quoted heighth and width at 0.
In WYSIWYG mode I would then double click the image and confirm the size radio button. This sets the h and w value correct again.

pageoneresults

7:25 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Strange. Something isn't right somewhere. Here is the typical process I'll go through to place an image...

I drag the image file from the /images/ folder into the page while in Normal view. The image will then appear. FP by default will assign the width and height attributes.

Once I save the page, everything is the way it should be.

Can you describe to me what you go through when placing an image?

P.S. I edit live via IE. No FTP and no publishing routine. You've stated that you are FTP'ing. If the problem occurs after the FTP, my first guess would be to look at my FTP settings. I'll typically use FTP to transfer large chunks of data but have not seen any issues with code being rewritten.

P.S.S. What version of FP and what FTP program?

P.S.S.S. Have you changed any of your Page Options? Are you using the Auto Thumbnail feature or something?

adfree

8:37 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Again, man thanks for your time!

1. Placing images out of insert/picture, then grab it from /images/ location

or

double click existing image, replace with browsing for new image in popping dialogue box.

2. FTP out of FP, either selected files only (most of the time) or publishing the whole web. Same result with both methods.

3. FP 2002

4. No change of page options or rwriting of any sort.

As I described before, everything looks great while working on the page, even after savings it looks cool locally. Missing pics only visible after becoming live due to the change of h and w into value zero.

pageoneresults

1:55 pm on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Okay, process of elimination. It looks like we've narrowed it down to something that is occurring during the publishing routine.

Does this happen randomly? Is there a specific set of pages it happens to? Are these images part of any FP WYSIWYG feature. Is there something common amongst the pages where this is occurring?

P.S. I've set up a test web so that I can mimic the FP publishing routine and I don't see any options during that routine that would overwrite image file sizes.

Arrrggghhh, don't you just hate it when you can't figure something out?

adfree

7:49 am on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Arrrggghhh, don't you just hate it when you can't figure something out?

...tell me about it...

1. Does this happen randomly?
-> yes

2. Is there a specific set of pages it happens to?
-> yes, some 60% of pages of that site (all pages have same type pictures)

3. Are these images part of any FP WYSIWYG feature.
-> Don't understand this question, sorry. Working in WYSIWYG I inlcude the pics via Insert / Picture from File

4. Is there something common amongst the pages where this is occurring?
-> Yes, pages are similar in build-up and content, very similar as only pictures and accompanying text vary.

Again: Thanks soo much digiing this.

adfree

7:06 pm on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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pageoneresults - many thanks for your kind help online and off. Although we are both a bit lost I have learned a couple of things along the way.

Will try contacting MS now, in case of any resolution I will post it here for archiving and to others for some help (if needed).

pageoneresults is one of the many WebmasterWorld members who is responsible for the huge success of this community!