Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 188.8.131.52
Forum Moderators: open
I'd have to argue that is not even close to analogous. I use GoLive for my HTML (with some minor hand tweaking) and CSS (ditto).... The HTML and CSS output is suprisingly clean and standards compliant if the end user knows what they're doing when they configure their preferences. (I've heard rumors from experienced FrontPage users that even FP can output clean HTML, if used correctly! ;) )
No argument... it was a comment I dropped in without first hand experience (except for the ordeal of trying to optimize a FrontPage site), and I retract it. What I meant to suggest, which I think is true, is that hand coding will probably give the leanest code, followed by Dreamweaver, then GoLive, then FP.
Re BBEdit, which was highly recommended at the lecture, there was an interesting tip if you don't already have it... BBEdit offers a discount of $40 if you are upgrading from a competitive product, and one of the products included in the list of programs from which upgrades are allowed is BBEdit Lite. BBEdit Lite, they point out, can be downloaded free. ;)
Been there! ;) Apparently, (and this is all stuff I've heard from FP users) FP becomes a problem when you use the "wizards". That's where you end up with the incomprehensible navigation coding and other gobbledegook. When I was asked to change a couple of photos in a "wizard-ized" FP site, I ended up tearing the whole thing down & patching it back together in GoLive.
As for lean code... I think Dreamweaver & GoLive are about the same (in the hands of an experienced user) having seen code from both. And both programs give you easy access to your code, so you can edit it by hand without leaving the program.
It's a really just a matter of preference and other software... If you use Fireworks or Freehand for your gfx, maybe you should stick with Macromedia for your WYSIWYG editor? I'm a militant Adobe devotee, so... ;) (And I actually started using GoLive before Adobe bought it.... when they still had an $80 "Personal Edition")
The best comparison is actually in the number of characters (where FP code is 19 times larger than hand coding).