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Publishing From Front Page To Server

Having trouble publishing to correct folder on server

         

rock007

4:13 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am very new at web design and have started with Front Page. However, I recently had my Operating System upgraded and I had to re-install my software.
When I try to publish to Front Page, the message says that it has published successfully. However, somehow it writes over the public_html folder and goes to another folder. I have to call my server so they can re-create the public_html folder and then publish my updates to the correct folder.
Where in Front Page do I go to put in the correct destination address and how should it read after I type in my site address?
Thank you so much for your help.
-Rocky

Corey Bryant

4:38 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are you using FTP or http method? The http method should place them in the correct folder

-Corey

rock007

5:10 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for responding so quickly.
I did not know there was more than one way to publish a site. I click Publish in Front Page and it does it itself. I did hear my server use the word FTPing it though. So, I assume that FTP is the method used.

-Rocky

bill

5:06 am on Jun 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In FP2003:
File ¦ Publish...
will bring you to a dialog box where on the Remote Web Site tab you can enter the Remote Web site location, including directories/folders.

rock007

12:06 pm on Jun 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you Bill. The location and file information was what I needed.
I will try this when I get home from work tonight.

-Rocky

rock007

12:24 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was able to publish my site using the information above. Thank all of you for your help.

I still have not been able to publish using Cute FTP though. In Front Page, you have to publish the entire site. I am not aware of an option to move over individual files to the remote location. Is there a different way that Cute FTP must be set up?

Thanks.

-Rocky

bill

8:59 am on Jun 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In Front Page, you have to publish the entire site.

No you don't. Right click on any file in FP2003 and choose "Publish Selected Files..." and you can update just the files you want.

Sorry, I don't know anything about CuteFTP.

rock007

1:52 pm on Jun 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wow! You can right click and publish files from there?! That's great! I have Front Page 2002, but I will try it when I get home from work. I publish a lot of photo galleries and I have always had trouble finding the correct files to select to move over. Is there a logic to how the files are moved as a group in a photo gallery and would I simply right-click the entire directory the folders are in and publish that? FTP creates some unusual looking files that I can't always find.

Since my hard drive was upgraded to Windows 2000, I have also had trouble viewing certain functions from my Internet Explorer at home. I know my site is publishing correctly because other people can view the site on their computers and I can view the total site at work, but on my PC at home, it does not bring up all the pictures and links. Would I need to re-install Internet Explorer and if so, how do people know what options to select?

Thank you.

-Rocky

bill

8:49 am on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is there a logic to how the files are moved as a group in a photo gallery and would I simply right-click the entire directory the folders are in and publish that?

I'm not sure I follow you here. You can select any number of files and folders and right-click all of them at once and publish them that way. You don't have to do them one at a time.

I have also had trouble viewing certain functions from my Internet Explorer at home.

You might want to start another thread about that issue. You would need to post some relevant code excerpts, and/or do some testing with other browsers as well.

rock007

12:46 pm on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Bill:

I found out this morning that I can FTP selected files in Front Page 2002 by using the right click function. When doing it before, I would simply move the page and then the images, but the images would have a little box with an "X" in the middle when published.

At first, Front Page seemed to dump my images into the main folder rather than where I moved the photo gallery page. That is what confused me. And then I wasn't sure what those little "vti" (or something like that) files were and where they went. So, I avoided the problem by publishing the entire site all at once. But as the site increased in size, it started taking forever to move over everything at once. And when I upgraded my hard drive, and re-installed Front Page, I couldn't publish the entire site because it timed out on me somewhere after about an hour. So, I deleted 90% of my archived pictures so it would transfer.

I guess the bottom line is, when publihing a photogallery by right clicking, do I simply make sure that the photogallery page, the images, and the vti files are all in one folder and simply right click the folder to FTP it?

As for the Internet Explorer issue, I hope to solve that problem when I recreate my site in Dreamweaver. If it doesn't correct itself, then I will created a new posting for that.

Thank you so much, Bill. I would put my website URL address on system for you to access, but I don't think they want URL addresses posted.

-Rocky

bill

1:29 pm on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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First, ignore the _vti files. Those are used by FP on sites with the server extensions. In an FTP environment they are not needed. They don't really take up any space, so you can delete them or just leave them.

FP also has an option called "Don't Publish" for your files. If you have big image directories that contain a lot of pictures that aren't going to be changing then mark the files in that folder "Don't Publish". This will save you all sorts of time. Just right click the files or folders and you should see the option. FP will put a little mark over the file icon to show you which files won't be published. Then you can do a full publish without it taking forever.

Honestly speaking, if you're going to be doing all this FTP work you should really just get an FTP program to do the transfer. I only use FP to publish files on sites that have the server extensions installed. I use WS_FTP for all the other sites. You seem to be getting confused by the FP system for FTP.

rock007

1:59 pm on Jun 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Bill.
This is great information. I'll try it tonight when I get off work.

You are correct. I am confused about the FTP process and the FP publishing process. I am basically experimenting and seeing what works. Ever since I upgraded my operating system to Windows 2000 from ME and I had everything re-installed, I have had nightmares with my site. That's why I am studying Dreamweaver MX. I plan on converting to it shortly.
But until the upgrade, I was successfully FTPing text information using Cute FTP, which I purchased. I would then publish the complete site in FP when I had to publish pictures. However, since the re-install, Cute FTP does not recognize my server at all. That is why I was so happy to hear that I could FTP individual files by right clicking in Front Page.

The confusion now is that I thought that Photo Galleries did require FP extensions in order to publish. In the past, I have tried to FTP pictures but then didn't transfer. Only boxes with a little "X" in them would publish.

bill

2:19 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you're having trouble with these basics (FTP) in FP, switching to DW isn't going to make any difference at all. The FTP in FP works just like any other. There's no special magic in the software that lets you connect. All you need is the proper settings for your server. It should work exactly the same way with an FTP program like Cute FTP.

If you know the Host Name, User ID, Password and Path to the folder you're publishing to then FP will work exactly the same as an FTP client, or vice versa.

rock007

12:45 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you Bill.

I have a lot to learn in this field.

-Rocky