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You know, the issue of copyright infringemens on the internet has always been quite topical. Certainly there ought to be found some ways to face it. But I think it should be done on the level of some powerful Internet players that can really influence on the situation essencially and change it globally. Your trying to assume the functions of, say, internet police is praiseworthy, of course, but on the other hand they appear to be rather futile, 'cause it's a system problem and it can't be exterminated by some individual precedents.
Unless you have been put on earth to be the super hero that fights MFA's, I would forget about.
Move on! Use your special powers on your own sites.
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viggen
Fyi, some sites will agree to let other sites host a copy of their articles. And then you've got websites who have affiliate setups that allow sites
Oh, and what is wrong with a site that is made for adsense if the owner of the site doesn't a) steal content, b) post crap?
In the near future I will be creating small sites targeted to niche topics. But I will research the topic and provide relevant material, plus some advertising. And just because I'm not an expert in that topic doesn't mean I shouldn't create a site. That's like saying a newsreporter shouldn't report on topics about war unless they've been in the war!
Oh, and what is wrong with a site that is made for adsense if the owner of the site doesn't a) steal content, b) post crap?
b) is the whole point, as most MFAs are just that - crap. They serve no useful purpose to Joe Surfer, existing only to make money for the site owner. While that may be good for the owner, these sites certainly don't enhance the user experience for genuine surfers.
That'll fix 'em
They serve no useful purpose to Joe Surfer, existing only to make money for the site owner
This is what they share with most TV programs, magazines and at least 80% of my daily newspaper. Sounds like you are talking about the advertising industry as a whole :)
I think MFAs are just another attempt to create more advertising space, mostly targeted to the unexperienced surfers.
We tried, but we can't beat them, most if the times not even those who steal our content. So I tend to ignore them or take them as a source of inspiration for new ideas in data extraction techniques.
If you can't beat them, join them!
I'm sure you don't condone plagiarism. ;)
I decided not to engage in a link exchange.
What do you do if you find a site made for adsense
If I were you I would report google ;)
Pennies now or dollars later?
That is a bag of worms. I don't condone plagiarism, but, by defintion I must therefore sue Netscape/AOL tomorrow morning as its DMoz entry for many of my sites is plainly plagiarism. And often done without my permission.
Then I guess law-suits against Yahoo for its directory entry and Google for stealing my title and tags, etc..... are justified?
The Internet is to the 21st Century what the wild-west was to America in the 19th Century.
Sure we can sue people instead of shooting them now, but, most of the principals are still the same.......We are all trying to grab some real estate that the law has not yet sufficiently defined.
As a conclusion:
>If you can't beat them, join them!
Doesn't sound like such bad advice to me....for now at least!
>If you can't beat them, join them!
Doesn't sound like such bad advice to me....for now at least!<
So to cut to the chase does that mean most Adsense people don't mind other people including other Adsense owners stealing from them? Is that what you are saying?
but, by defintion I must therefore sue Netscape/AOL tomorrow morning as its DMoz entry for many of my sites is plainly plagiarism. And often done without my permission.
Back to the OP, if G has created the opportunity, then why not just leave it and let G sort it out. Reporting a site is like holding back the tide.
If you don't find the information you need, go and use a different search engine. Google will soon pick up on that if enough people take that step.
If it really upsets you to see poor quality or copied MFA sites, feel free to report it. On the ads, you'll find the text "Ads by Goooooogle" Click on that to make your comments. Let the owner of the original material know.
I applaud you if you do.
There's not much honest folks can do if they keep complaining about the competition. I'm sure there are a couple of tricks we can learn from the spammers.
I say think like a winner and you will win.
I already reported it as spam in google, but if they are banned, i'm sure they will simply register another domain and do the same thing again.
That's certainly not been my experience. While using Google like a Real Person, if I run into high-ranking results that are useless, I respond to Google's entreaty to fill out the "dissatisfied" form to help them improve.
Then, when the next major algorithm update comes out, I invariably find that most of the useless crud pages I reported are nowhere to be found -- along with just about everybody using the same form/technique for generating high-ranking crud pages.
So yeah, they can register another domain, but they sure can't do the same thing again. They gotta tinker and tinker and come up with something that beats the new algorithm. And then the whole cycle starts again.
The nice thing is, it's getting harder and harder to beat the algorithm. If 'twere not so, there would be absolutely nothing but spam in the top ten of every search result of any monetary value :-)
Saying Google or Yahoo does the same as MFAs: those companies offer a _great_ deal more than any MFA site. That kind of logic can be fatal to your chances of lasting internet success :]
I see a lot of these sites using or mashing up my 'free for reprint' articles. Many are awful; pure, deliberate dross, and if they disappear, no loss.
And they _will_ disappear: too many, too similar, a tweak of the algorithm, and "poof!".
Cue, on WebmasterWorld: "Update_Name wiped out my sites, Google is crap! etc."
Anyone know if there are many MFA webmasters are on WebmasterWorld, out of interest?
It's OK if you're a sh*t-hot black hat SEO making a six figure income every year, and your sites get blitzed: you just go back to your PC, and up your game. Another day at the office.
For a newbie, it will be a sorrier tale, especially if he had a fairly decent site.
He gets a few bob from Adsense, reads posts about MFAs or duplicate content software on webmaster forums, buys said software (only $97!), and gets nuked.
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Urrr ... time for bed, I think ... arrgh
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I don't steal, instead I research and write about topics that in my opinion are of interest to the people in my market niches.
When my sites succeed, its because I provided something that someone else didn't. Or because I provided the information in a better way.
Whats wrong with that?
The 'nets almost 100% a commercial broadcasting medium, with content -good, bad, and terrible- and lots of commercials. What else did you expect?
It's shorthand for a particular type of low-value site.
but just thinking someone is making money stealing other people work makes me sick
Fretting about other people making money is not a productive use of time. That is makes you "sick" suggests an unhealthy preoccupation with being policeman to the world. Move on, at least for your own health.
If you can't beat them join them is not good advice. The changes that will no doubt come to adsense as a result of people abusing the system will no doubt hurt everyone. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
When I auto-generated pages etc., I found it as much work as coming up with 'legit' material.
It's easier to pay several people $10 each for 500 on-topic words. You get unique content, which won't break the bank, while you sit on your bottom.
You need to think: What am I interested in, that many other people really want, that I can make a fat _net_ profit on?
Come up with a hit gizmo or service, or copy someone else, with a new, improved wrinkle.
PS: I'm still thinking about what I could produce that would be a big hit. It's a lot more fun, and research is free.
****ing about with spamming software is ennervating, and the guys who got in early, and cleaned up, are probably moving on now, leaving you to get smacked by the next update.
I propose TigerTom's Law Of Webmaster Hype: If some geezer with a one-page site full of marketing-speak is selling The Next Big Thing for $97, back away fast.
And just because I'm not an expert in that topic doesn't mean I shouldn't create a site. That's like saying a newsreporter shouldn't report on topics about war unless they've been in the war!
Valid point, there. In fact, all my sites have been setup because I (a) didn't know about a topic and (b) wanted to create an area to learn more about said topic.
Of course, simply posting a site for affiliate links is lame. Not unethical, just lame.
And just because I'm not an expert in that topic doesn't mean I shouldn't create a site. That's like saying a newsreporter shouldn't report on topics about war unless they've been in the war!
I'd expect the reporter to do enough research to know what he's talking about before he gives a report that I'm going to rely on. Owners who want to provide good content for their visitors do the same thing - PerfectReign sounds like a good example of that. It's just the ones who don't know what they're talking about and don't care that they don't know what they're talking about that cause the credibility problems.
