Charge for content

Pay to view?

[turk182]

A NYTimes article [nytimes.com] about AOL's decision to charge more for content

[jackofalltrades]

lol

couldnt view it...not a member! :)

(not signing up for anything...)

JOAT

[turk182]

Free registration. The only use it to track users.

[jackofalltrades]

lol

yeh right!

Annual income? Job title? Industry? DOB? Location?

Everything you need for highly targetted direct marketing. ;)

This is not for tracking users. Web stats track users....this makes money (and having seen all the ads in the middle of the text, i even more convinced of this).

You all realise that companies like these are the main perpretrators of spam, dont you?

We'll see how long it takes paid for subscription emails to arrive in my in box even though i ask for no mailings. :)

Rant over.

JOAT

<added>Im a military officer in the telecomms industry working in customer service in chile if anyone asks....</added>

[turk182]

Well, I don't remember NYTimes asking me for these things when I first register a long, long time ago, but it's also possible they asked (but I don't remember) and I put garbagge ;)

Web stats track users

That's not correct. Web stats track page views and IPs, but not users. If you don't ask for registration before anything else, you could not ensure proper user identification (you could only count different IPs).

[GilbertZ]

Didn't you guys read the thread about the spammer. From now on, write down his home address and use it for all the forms you fill out and registrations you do. Then steve case will be selling the registrations to the spammer, the spammer will send himself aol cds.

[jackofalltrades]

>
That's not correct. Web stats track page views and IPs, but not users. If you don't ask for registration before anything else, you could not ensure proper user identification (you could only count different IPs).

My point is that i dont like having to register with places to see free content.

Also...they wont be tracking users...they will be making a demographic profile of them in order to sell them stuff.

Theres a difference.

JOAT

[jackofalltrades]

My first unrequested email from them:

(i didnt not select anything that asked for these - i made a point of it).

Please note that the bulk of the unsolicited email is an advertisment, or an internal advert for their services. And a nice little message saying i can expect another one in two weeks.

This is not tracking your customers!

JOAT :)

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[turk182]

Well, in my daily mail from NYTimes there're three advertisement to subscribe to NYTimes ("Click Here to Receive 50% Off Home Delivery of The New York Times Newspaper") and one of the "new NYTStore".

Well, I don't find it excessive for a "free service". The day they begin to fill my mail with spamming I'd unsubscribe.

[jackofalltrades]

WW is a free service and dont send out mailings.

I dont object to an autoresponse when i sign up for something, but 80% adverts is too much, especially when i specifically said i didnt want any.

My 2c! :)

JOAT