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professional content on amateur sites?

user expectations rising dramatically

         

timchuma

11:45 pm on Feb 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was contacted last year by a website wanting me to review widgets for their site so I thought it would be a good opportunity to share the large archive of widget reviews I have on my site. It was also to help them build their content and get more site traffic (even though they don't make money from the site.)

They also have a facility where people who look up the reviews on their site can leave a comment. For some reason most of my reviews seem to get negative comments. I didn't hear any when I just had them on my site.

Are people expecting 'journalist quality' reviews whenever they come across a site with reviews on a certain topic now?

Also I have a large archive of photos on my site which I would like to loan to other sites, but I am afraid the same thing will happen.

Thanks.

VegasRook

2:58 am on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You are basically describing the coming wave. For years, it has been said that content is king--well the coming phase will be quality content is king.

Quality will have a dual meaning--is it worth reading and was it written well.

As more and more quality is put out there, users will no longer tolerate 2nd rate writing.

The flood of real writers (I almost hate to use the term) will increase annually now. Writing for websites and smaller publications is basically step one towards a free-lance writing career.

What I mean by "real" writers is someone who is passionate about writing, writes for a living, is working on building the quality of their prose, and/or is working on building name recognition.

In other words, writing is their life.

Take negativity with a grain of salt because you can't please everyone. Moreover, look at what they did not like about the piece and see if there are ways you can improve.

That's just my 2 shekels.

timchuma

9:21 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What there is a real shortage of on the web is good editors. You can go over your own work many times and still not pick up something a skilled editor will find with just a glance.

In particular it can look like a sentence is complete, but there are missing words that you as the writer interpret as there because they are in your mind. Something trying to read the passage will have a lot harder time as the have to follow a choppy sentence.

Outside of professional publications that have full time subeditors and other production staff, I don't really see this situation improving.

Thanks.

Content Writer

11:31 pm on Feb 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's inevitable that the situation will improve on a large scale. It has to.

You see, the overt idealism behind VegasRook's description of the "coming wave" of "quality content['s]" majesty is actually backed up by what people pay.

Internet marketing companies and home office professionals alike are starting to shell out more money for writers who can artfully integrate keywords/key-themes into engaging copy that gets visitors to buy.

Naturally, they edit what they pay for, and not only do their high powered pages fly to the top of serps, but their users really do avail themselves of the goods and services offered/follow the ads.

The best thing to do is follow this trend. Better yet, stay ahead of it.

I agree with Timchuma - there is a shortage of well edited writing on-line today. But isn't this just a reflection of the poor standards that are on their way out? Good writing goes hand in hand with good editing, and as user expectations rise, so must quality.

It's a beautiful example of market force positively influencing creativity. (Marketable creativity, that is). Sure you may be spending some extra money on writers and devoting extra time to edit their submissions and foster their talent. But in the end you are developing a body of persuasive, tantalizing prose that is crucial to maintaining your edge.

Indeed, the days of outsourced, $5 pages wrought with questionable grammar are over. The consumer already knows better.

VegasRook

2:50 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I believe we are in a midpoint right now where slightly above average writing with low end editing is expected.

As well written and well edited pieces begin to flow into the Internet's stream at a steady pace, expectations will rise.

For true writers and editors, the future on the Internet appears extremely bright. The day of a majority of website owners respecting the written word is upon us.

Livenomadic

5:35 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I completely agree! I am rewriting a 30 or so articles to make them more professional quality and less "hobbyish"

I don't who it was, (I wanna say Jenstar), but someone said: "Show me a freelance writer and I'll show you someone who can earn $100 a day".

Being able to write, and write WELL is far more important than your coding ability or SEO knowledge.

VegasRook

6:05 am on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't who it was, (I wanna say Jenstar), but someone said: "Show me a freelance writer and I'll show you someone who can earn $100 a day".

That is completely correct (regarding making money). Making a living as a freelance writer is a process and takes a good deal of work but the money is there.


Being able to write, and write WELL is far more important than your coding ability or SEO knowledge.

Correct again. It will help you in many professions (pretty much all of them).

Writing is like any other craft--it takes lots of practice.

There is also a lot of money in Editing but that is another discussion.

EileenC

3:46 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't who it was, (I wanna say Jenstar), but someone said: "Show me a freelance writer and I'll show you someone who can earn $100 a day".

Only $100? Only if you're aiming low. :)

Livenomadic

6:34 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I believe it was said during a long thread of how to make $100 a day as soon as possible or something like that.

VegasRook

9:00 pm on Feb 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Only $100? Only if you're aiming low

I agree that this is a low number but people tend to need something low to shoot for. If you are at $0 a day--$100 a day seems like a gold mine.

Also the amount of money you can make per [insert time label here] depends largely on your work speed.

Harry

11:02 pm on Feb 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Content Writer, I don't mean to pick on you but I find that your comment above sounds more like a commercial and about why people should hire writers than a real opinion.

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Content Writer

12:24 am on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What's more is that it can all be yours for only 19.99 a month! Plus an instant rebate!

I appreciate your comment Harry. I'll take this opportunity to clarify that a) yes, I do believe content writers like me and many others who have posted here should be able get paid fairly for the quality they produce and b) as a writer for life, it's my real opinion.

Thanks for your concern.

Harry

3:38 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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:)

VegasRook

2:24 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Aw, let them pay $4 an article and tarnish their image :D

Do I hear $4.25? Going once...

ccDan

6:24 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Aw, let them pay $4 an article and tarnish their image

You can't judge a writer by what they charge; only by the content they produce.

This is especially true with writers who are new and may not know how to accurately judge their time and what they should charge. Or, they may charge a low rate just to build up a portfolio of work or testimonials, etc.

For example, I recently had a small number of articles written at a low rate from writers in the U.S. Because of the low rate, I was concerned about content being "borrowed" from other sites. I looked around and, thus far, have not found any problems.

On the other hand, I recently had written an article at an "industry standard" rate, meaning probably a fair rate where the writer actually makes money for the time and effort they put into it.

However, large portions of this article--which I won't be using--appear to have been "borrowed" from other web sites.

Again, you can't judge a writer by what they charge; only by the content they produce.

VegasRook

8:29 am on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No, but 95%+ of "writers" who charge extremely low rates do not put out great work.

A new writer who does not know any better will learn quickly and adjust.

If you don't mind non-original work, there are some good articles floating around out there, which can be used on your web site.

weelee

9:36 am on Feb 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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in my place, we deal with people on the more personal level. get to know your supplier, interact. then you would know what he's capable of and then he would know what your expectations are. somewhere along the way, your ends will meet and both will get your deserved end of the deal. money talk makes stuff really tweaky sometimes.