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Gentoo Linux - Whadda Ya Think?

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12:26 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Found this old thread [webmasterworld.com] but it's a tad dated..

Anyone running Gentoo Linux? [gentoo.org] - If so, what's it like?

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6:04 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I love it. Total customization for customization freaks. It's BSD nirvana for Linux. ;-)

I think it's great for new users that really want to learn Linux (and not just set it up as a desktop replacement for Windows). Much like installing NetBSD on really weird platforms, you'll learn a TON about the OS by setting it up for the first time from the documentation, which you wouldn't learn by pointing and clicking from pretty interfaces. You learn because YOU are setting up the configuration files yourself.

Once it's setup, it's pretty much like any other Linux, except you get the neat BSD-like ports system.

6:06 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>neat BSD-like ports system.

What does that mean to the uninitiated?

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6:12 pm on Nov 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The "ports" system is a local skeleton of a software repository tree that makes the latest pre-compiled and source packages available to you, and they're tested and promised to work when compiled on your platform.

You simply go to the directory of the software you wish to install in the repository, type a command, and the ports system will grab the latest version, make sure you're up to snuff with dependencies, grab all the files it needs, and get everything working for you with the best options for your system.

There are slight differences between the BSDs and Gentoo, but that's the basic idea.

[edited by: bakedjake at 6:15 pm (utc) on Nov. 28, 2003]

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Ah.. right, I did read that but I got confused with ports (as in :80) and the gentoo terminoloty...

I'm seriously considering this, I'm runing Fedora at the moment and am well impressed but I'm a control freak as far as linux goes and I want to run the most bleeding edge system I can for the pure fun of it ;)

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Dive in! Do the compile from scratch option - it's more fun. ;-)

It does take quite a while to build. I'd recommend starting the bootstrapping build (stage 1 to 2 progression) before you go to bed. I remember it taking about 2 hours on my PIII/1200.

You should try FreeBSD, too. ;-)

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It is awsome, I now have three boxes running gentoo and every one has noticed the performance kick. I have stayed for the most part with the stable, but stable for gentoo is cutting edge for most distros!
5:07 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Okay, so I'm reading the install manual and it's talking about fdisk and creating filesystems.

Problem is, it seems odd to partition and format a filesystem on disks I'm currently using...

Do they really maan that or what?

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8:31 pm on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Formating a not mounted filesystem on the same disk that's being used is perfectly fine. The information will be lost the same, but that was expected. The other partitions' filesystems will be fine.

The partition is probably done on single user mode while on a ramdisk; in that case the hard drive is not being used at all, but check it anyway with a 'cat /proc/mounts'.

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Hehehe, you reference an old thread of mine. I started out with Gentoo when it was rather young. The project has matured a lot since and I think it's an excellent linux distro now. It's very easy to keep up to date.

Sooo...my comment in that thread that I wouldn't use it was wrong. Every linux system I've set up in the past few months has been Gentoo. Guess I can go back and eat my words now. :)

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if you enjoy spending 10+ hours downloading and compiling gentoo only to have an error stop you in your tracks, then gentoo is for you..

Well that was my one and only experience with it. I think I'll leave the compiling to the professionals.

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>It is awsome, I now have three boxes running gentoo and every one has noticed the performance kick.

May i ask what CFLAGS are you using? It should make a big difference when you're compiling everything on your own. I have this:

'-O2 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -felide-constructors'

but a friend recently told me that gcc 2.x was sometimes making programs run slower with -O2 than with -O1.

I'm using gcc 3.3 though and was wondering if there's anything like that with it.

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I am using the gentoo recomended for pentium4.

CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays-pipe"

Someday I hope to understand these CFLAGS and learn how to tweak them by box

I am running GCC 3.23

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Doesn't -funroll-loops make your binaries bigger, as well as -O3 of course.

[edited by: eelixduppy at 10:47 pm (utc) on Feb. 19, 2009]

6:38 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From my limited understanding: Shouldn't it be 02?

btw, I love my Gentoo, but I'm having a **** of a time with the 2.6test11 and ALSA...

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7:01 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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**** good or **** bad? I'm curious; I haven't tested already the 2.6 series, how good is it? Wouldn't you have casually tested the nvidia binary driver with it?
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The nvidia driver just needs 'emerging' and the nforce net deal now has a reverse engineered driver called 'forcedeth' that comes ready patched in to the gentoo-dev-sources (2.6test11 patched for various things specifc to gentoo)...

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In answer to the original message I think Gentoo is great. Am running it as my main OS now. In the past I've mostly used Windows and managed FreeBSD servers, but wanted Linux over BSD as I like to play the odd game (couldn't be arsed with the binary compatability in FreeBSD). I've tried Mandrake and Slackware and Gentoo is much nicer IMO. It takes a bit of getting used to with the install but now I'm here I'll never go back. :-)

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10:25 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was wondering, would Winex run under Gentoo? I'm currently looking at the distro @ gentoo.org and can't seem to find any links or documents on the topic.

TYIA,
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[gentoo.org...]

A Good Screenshot it seems of Gentoo.

I was wonderin, you see the terminal window? What is that goin on in there? any ideas? :)

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Also, I didn't mean to step on your toes - (the one who created this topic. I had many questions of my own to ask about Gentoo- sry ).
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>toes

I don't care, it's a discussion board, this is the way it should work ;)

No idea what's going on in the term window but it looks like some kind of network/fs analyser output...

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@TobyDallan

Do you mean the colours behind the terminal window? If so then it's a setting to allow you to make it transparent, it's on a sliding scale so you can set exactly how opaque it is. Looks to me in the screenshot like they have made it totally transparent and ditched the window borders too.

One of the best places for info is in the Gentoo forums too (forums.gentoo.org), you can find out pretty much anything you might need to know in there. And it would seem that yes, WineX does work.

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Thanks much cripsy and Nick for the replies
 

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