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Where has this question been asked (and more or less answered) before?
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So, you can see that this question is well and truly in the spotlight.
My thinking is that if you have/use a package or two, perhaps you can (in a very unbiased way) add to this list, Always using the following:
Package name?:
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?:
Price range for target user?:
Logfile based or Tagging based?:
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?:
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...):
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?:
Gives geographic data?:
Graphical or text based reporting?:
Tracks Spiders?:
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns?
Tracks conversion data for natural search?
Unusual Extras?
I plan to do enormous amounts of editing in this thread... to try to keep some consistency.
Here are the ones I have experience with...
Package name?: Indextools
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: small to medium
Price range for target user?: Page view based. Seen it work from 1000 to 1 million page views a month.
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Tagging
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: Third party server
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML, with csv and scheduled email exports
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: yes
Graphical or text based reporting?: Graphical
Tracks Spiders?: Not very well
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Yes
Tracks conversion data for natural search? Yes
Unusual Extras? Allows user logins, good white label
Package name?: Webtrends Log Analyzer (Not Webtrends live)
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: small biz
Price range for target user?: $300 one off appx.
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Logs
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: PC
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): All of these
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: Yes
Graphical or text based reporting?: Both
Tracks Spiders?: Yes
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Not well
Tracks conversion data for natural search? No
Unusual Extras? In theory, license only allows you to analyse logs on one server (regardless of number of sites).
Package name?: Hitbox (Webside story)
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: small to medium
Price range for target user?: Page view based pricing
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Tagging
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: Third party server
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML, Don't know about others
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?:
Graphical or text based reporting?:
Tracks Spiders?:
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Yes
Tracks conversion data for natural search? Don't recall
Unusual Extras?
Who can add to this, maybe with stats packages like:
Nettracker
Webtrends Live
Websidestory
Awstats
Faststats
Hitslink
Livestats/Deepmetrix
Package name: NetTracker
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: all
Price range for target user?: don't know
Logfile based or Tagging based?: both
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: PC
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): all
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: yes
Gives geographic data?: yes
Graphical or text based reporting?: graphic
Tracks Spiders?: yes
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Not very good
Tracks conversion data for natural search? not clear
Unusual Extras?
Package name: awstats
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: personal to small biz
Price range for target user?: free
Logfile based or Tagging based?: logfile
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: PC
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: Need plug-in
Graphical or text based reporting?: Graphic
Tracks Spiders?:Yes
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? No
Tracks conversion data for natural search? No
Unusual Extras?
(Added - le_gber says awstats sits on the server, not your PC)
[edited by: Receptional at 12:25 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2005]
[edit reason] Correction [/edit]
Joe
My Conclusion - Urchin, now owned by Google I believe, is an awesome stats package. It can be a bit slow at times due to heavy graphical interface. It is excellent at reporting page views, geographical data and ALL organic search terms from all SE's. Very easy to use. Trick to Urchin is configuring it properly. The "default" comes a bit stripped down which will work fine for small sites without much traffic but will frustrate larger sites. This frustration can be removed by changing the settings to allow for larger table size so Urchin can hold more data.
"Physics" adds: There are two types of urchin (at least): the one that's free with most web hosts and the $200/month javascript tag one that has advanced features and roi tracking and stuff (I think ... haven't used it but sat through some presentations . Anway I wanted to post that in the thread but don't want to start a discussion.)
[edited by: Receptional at 7:13 am (utc) on Sep. 5, 2005]
[edit reason] Added Physic's comment [/edit]
My Conclusion : A very nice concept that is missing one absolutely key component - Deep Metrixs (or at least the version I used last year) does NOT track organic search phrases. It keeps tab on keywords used. But it splits search phrases up into keywords - and does not report phrases used. Thus, a search in Google that leads to your site for "some term" will not be shown as a keyword phrase. Instead, it shows up in the keyword reports as "some" and "term". This makes tracking your targeted keyword phrases nearly impossible.
[edited by: Receptional at 7:15 am (utc) on Sep. 5, 2005]
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You can compare the different packages in a table view on their web site. It's pretty nice that one can get in on this advanced software for $50/month with the Analyzer hosted.
[edited by: Receptional at 11:46 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2005]
Side note: Each profile is a license, but you can specify as many log files as you want (will fetch them from local drive or FTP) under 1 profile, it will break down the results by domain. This is a really nice piece of software, the filters are plentiful with the ablitly to create custom filters easily.
[edited by: Receptional at 11:43 am (utc) on Aug. 31, 2005]
[edited by: Receptional at 12:19 pm (utc) on Aug. 31, 2005]
[edit reason] Took out question - trying to keep this thread uniform [/edit]
Receptional - FYI, WebTrends Log Analyzer is no longer available and the pricing model you supplied is no longer being used. It's now page views regardless of servers, CPUs, etc.
[edited by: cgrantski at 5:07 pm (utc) on Sep. 4, 2005]
[edited by: cgrantski at 5:08 pm (utc) on Sep. 4, 2005]
Firstly, thanks to everyone who posted, for being objective and for sticking to the point. I hope this thread proves to be a useful resource for years to come, and is destined for the Tracking and Logging document library [webmasterworld.com]
Because this thread borders on soliciting for business, I am taking the unusual step of locking the thread now. If anyone wants to add a significant package, or request that something here is updated, please sticky me. In doing so, please cut and paste the format above, so I don't have to spend ages changing your sticky. I would like to limit this to stats packages that have at least come off Beta and have some market penetration please.
THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE.
Dixon.
From member Raboof:
Package name: Pathalizer
Target user: Personal to med biz
Price range for target user: Free
Logfile based or Tagging based: Logfile based
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC: Can be installed on server or local PC.
Reporting formats: PDF,PostScript,PNG,JPEG,SVG,DOT
Gives geographic data:No'
Graphical or text based reporting:Graphical
Tracks Spiders?: No
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? No.
Tracks conversion data for natural search? No.
Unusual Extras: Pathalizer is complementary to more conversative statistics gatherers. Rather than the raw statistics (for which plenty of good analysis tools are widely available), Pathalizer attempts to extract the most-used paths through the website, producing a high-level graphical view of the way users navigate the site.
The result is represented as a graph (in the nodes-and-edges sense of the word).
From member wart888:
Package name: opentracker.net
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz): all levels
Price range for target user: starting $16.99 p/m $169 p/y
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Tagging - 1st party cookie
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: 3rd party - Application Service Provider
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): html, .csv
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: yes
Gives geographic data?: city, company, region, country, postal, dma, zip
Graphical or text based reporting?: both
Tracks Spiders?: no (specifically only human)
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? no
Tracks conversion data for natural search? no
Unusual Extras? real-time clickstream reporting, high volume capability, all data stored indefinitely
From member dragen_djapic:
Package name?: Web Log Storming
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: small biz
Price range for target user?: $129
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Logfile based
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: PC windows
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): Html, Email, CSV
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: Yes (country name)
Graphical or text based reporting?: Graphical
Tracks Spiders?: Yes
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? No
Tracks conversion data for natural search? No
Unusual Extras? Unique feature to identify and inspect individual visitors and their activity on website
From TokMak
Package name?: TrackSite
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: All
Price range for target user?: $79 - $189 (one-time cost)
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Tagging
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: Sits on server
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: Yes
Graphical or text based reporting?: Graphical
Tracks Spiders?: Yes
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Yes
Tracks conversion data for natural search? Yes
Unusual Extras? real-time, downloads tracking, webserver stats (Apache only), very compact database, multi-user, free edition available, reseller program
from LarryN
Package name?: Visitour
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: Small to Medium
Price range for target user?: $79 for basic package, additional modules $25 each, eCommerce modules $50 - $150 each; Free Trial, limited version, never expires
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Log file (Apache, IIS/W3C); local tagging option via beacons or scripting
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: Analysis runs locally or on your server (requires Java VM)
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML, CSV export
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: No
Graphical or text based reporting?: Plain language Text reports, many with inline bar graphs
Tracks Spiders?: Yes, full tracking for Spiders in additional plug-in module
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Yes, full campaign tracking in additional Ad Campaign tracking module, conversions tracking requires Shopping module
Tracks conversion data for natural search? Yes, Referral tracking included in Core modules, conversion tracking requires additional Shopping module
Unusual Extras? Multiple levels of reports with increasing detail based on business needs: Executive Summary, Highlights, Digests, Lists, Full Details (e.g. individual page details, campaign tracking, ad tracking, etc.).Treats dynamically generated pages as unique pages for analysis, better duplicating visitor experience No page tagging needed, special attributes work after simple configuration Session cookies tracked to identify unique and returning visitors, when available Visitor behavior filtering for segment analysis Log spam filters Runs on Windows, OSX, Linux, etc.; configure locally and copy configuration to server
From Stevil
Package name: AllTracked
Target user Personal/small biz/med biz/big biz)?: All
Price range for target user?: $49.95
Logfile based or Tagging based?: Tagging
Sits on server / third party server / local your PC?: Third Party Server
Reporting formats? (HTML, Email, CSV, WORD...): HTML, Email
Tracks daily unique visitors as well as page views?: Yes
Gives geographic data?: Yes
Graphical or text based reporting?: Yes
Tracks Spiders?: No
Tracks conversion data for PPC campaigns? Yes
Tracks conversion data for natural search? Yes
Unusual Extras? Allows you to define your own tracking sections, things such as sign ups, logins, support requests and anything else you can think of.