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From Yahoo Search Blog: "We will be making changes to the ranking of our index tonight. I would expect that this update will be mild and quick compared to recent ones but will impact the ranking of some sites."
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 9:42 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]
The order in which we see updates has now changed from MSN, Yahoo, Google to MSN, Google, Yahoo. I'm sick of having to make excuses for Yahoo. Get it sorted (and your domain issues)
Does it seem that Yahoo is progressively getting worse results or better for you all? In the areas that I watch some of the results are extremely interesting. Nothing to do with the search topic and yet Top 10 listings.
Yes, could not agree more. Am seeing an increase in irrelevant sites and basic spam techniques are succeeding.
It's still the case that homepages are showing better than more relavant subpages in some cases, but that's not the end of the world.
It does seem that backlinks are playing an ever more important role in Y's algo. That's not unexpected. But as a result, their SERP's look more like G's than I've seen in a while (though happily, far less contorted).
Still, I sorta liked the differences between the two. With Yahoo moving away from the importance of onpage factors and towards the importance of backlinks, I lack the choice as a searcher that I once had when wanting to just find pages that sync up nicely with literal searches. That's still often the best way to find things, if you're good at constructing longer tail search queries, as many of the mor sophisticated and younger searchers are...
For another search, I'm seeing almost random results. Big sites like Adobe are in there, which is fine. But I also see a random site that is in there apparently because it might have a lot of .edu backlinks. It has 52k backlinks compared to over a million (honest) backlinks from a more relevant website that is at the bottom of the page for this Yahoo serp.
It's definitely not number of backlinks at work here. And not anchor text analysis either. It looks like a knob twisted to favor certain link neighborhoods, and in certain searches there is a concentration on quality that is overvaluing .edu and .gov backlinks, or the link neighborhoods in general.
their SERP's look more like G's than I've seen in a while
In some of the areas I check, the results on Yahoo are getting more and more identical to Google's results for the same search terms.
They better watch out, Google has a lot of factors that are in their algo (and a lot of stuff that isn't in there and probably never will be) patented. :)
It's still the case that homepages are showing better than more relavant subpages in some cases, but that's not the end of the world.
And the other way around too.
I'm not complaining because I've ended up with 2 relevant lower level page listings on many serps, but the index pages for those sections of my site would be a better choice.
Results still as poor as they were before. They had more relevent results a couple of updates back, of more recent times i have no idea what they base their results on other than:-
Short keyword title, keyword Description, keyword domain name/keyword = number 1 position
Mind you, who cares?
Last month I did a 301 redirect .htacess from www.to non to satisfy G ...so I get a little more traffic fromG but basically lost all traffic to Y ..
NOT HAPPY
Fortnently my traffic comes from all 3 engines
So could the 301 redirct have caused this to happen? nothing blackhat at all about the site .
I do very few reciprocal links less than 10 and have a few thousand mostly quality links
"I know it should help ..just nervous about screwing around with something with so many links and fairly decent rankings anyways .. "
I'm seeing some great improvements on some listings but for the last couple months have seen no deep crawls. Really weird. I have been thinking for a couple months, what happened to the Yahoooo! spiders.
It does seem that backlinks are playing an ever more important role in Y's algo.
It seems to be site wide backlinks that have nothing to do with the keywords.
For one topic the official site and ours are the only websites dedicated to the topic. The official site has a lot of on topic backlinks and we have a lot of optimized content.
A ton of large sites and forums have a single page of limited content on this topic.
They fill up the 1st 3 pages in Yahoo but not Google.
I think this has been happening on our other sites but it is obvious on this one because of the limited number of authority sites.
Andy
Does it seem that Yahoo is progressively getting worse results or better for you all?
if things are settled (which i doubt) then some of the serps (comp/non comp/edu) i keep an eye on seem to be getting worse IMO
i was starting to use Y! more recently than G to find some info, IMO for some areas MSN are returning more relevant results
not easy to please everyone i guess!
dazz