Ranked Well on MSN But Not Google

MSN and Google inversely proportional.

[Tami_SEO]

Is there a reason why MSN loves me and Google hates me? I do well on MSN and Yahoo, but lousy (getting worse as of late)... like 9% of my visitors are from Google when they used to be my top visitor count.

It's getting rediculous. Google does pick up my low frequency phrases, but my high frequecy keywords have been killed by google. Does this mean sandbox? Any special words of advice?

Thank you!

Tami

[arran]

Hi Tami,

How old is your site? As you can see from the threads below, this is a common phenomenon.

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[Tami_SEO]

<<How old is your site? As you can see from the threads below, this is a common phenomenon. >>

My site has been up since 2001 and has 1240 links back according to bcentral and about 85 links back according to google. It has a pagerank of 4/10.

My competitor (main) has a pagerank of 2/10 and only abou 14 links back from google.

I'll read those articles and if I have any more whining to do, I'll post here again.

Thanks!

[Gargen]

i have three times as many pages in msn than google, i think there are just more picky and have some really wierd algorithim that takes astology into account hehe, but they get to do that they are who they are

[etechsupport]

MSNbot is active all the time. MSN revisits sites very frequently.Those sites with great text and clear internal link-paths are ranking very well with MSN.

Mention your keywords near the top and/or bottom of a page for Google ranking.

[justgowithit]

Does this mean sandbox

The verdict is still out on whether the sandbox even exists. Regardless, your site has been online for 4 years and is well past the sandbox age.

Each SE has a different, constantly changing algorithm that dictates the SERP. MSN and Yahoo! have been traditionally similar in their SERPs. Quite honestly, it’s best to think of this as a coincidence more than anything else.

Any special words of advice

Here’s what I do (in short):
Target each engine as an individual entity. Create a natural but comprehensive optimization strategy. Follow the strategy consistently and modify it were you feel there is need for improvement. Drink a lot of coffee and never get discouraged when a change in your strategy results in a drop in the SERPs instead of a gain. Chalk it up to experience and keep moving.

Mention your keywords near the top and/or bottom of a page for Google ranking.

If only it were that easy. ;)

[PhillipHarrison]

Hi

My site is new and ive managed to get listed on MSN* with many search phrases [removed keywords]

unfortunately the same cant be said for google and yahoo where i dont figure. i already have 4k links back to my site listed on google.

sandbox perhaps?

when i created my site i made it configured exactly for google rankings, or i thought i did.

Maybe if im in the sandbox and i reappear i will zoom up the google rankings, ok i can dream.

Personally i prefer msn search results to googles, and im not being biased (truley). MSN has no need of a sandbox as everything i search for i get relevant results.

Pity more people dont use msn lol

[edited by: msgraph at 12:19 pm (utc) on Aug. 2, 2005]
[edit reason] changed Google to MSN per member request [/edit]

[medowl]

Is there a Sandbox? I don't think so. It is more of an inbox that keeps filling up as the web grows, a "we'll get around to that real soon - we promise!" situation.

MSN is definitely more responsive. My pages on "edible magnetic widgets" are the best on the web, and they are #1 in MSN; Google doesn't seem to understand that there is a niche for edible magnetic widgets, and the top pages are about refrigerator magnets or underwear widgets.

Of course, I have a very narrow niche. If I had much competition, then the blackhats would be working their evil spells to make me invisible even on MSN and Yahoo.

[Lorel]

When a site has been online for several years and has adequate backlinks and suddenly drops out of sight in Google SERPs it's usually because the pages don't validate or it has broken links or some other problem that deters the search engine from indexing the site (technology blockers) or a hosting problem like being on a shared IP address and other sites are causing your site to be blocklisted or there is a duplicate content penalty on your site. There is also the recent penalty for looking too much like a scraper site, or directory. Eliminate all those possiblities and you'll be on the road to recovery.