Trying to avoid the sandbox.

When to publish your site to the web.

[sadelb]

I am currently in the process of making a content site on a particular item. I am making the site offline of course and havent even bought the domain name yet. How many pages of my site do you guys reccomend before publishing it on the net. I've heard a minimum of ten pages is best and create a new page every 2 or 3 days. Do you guys reccomend doing it like this or should I finish the whole site before publishing it to the net. Thanks.

Ben

[specter]

Hi,

In general there isn't a rule for this:

Obviously once have been published,it's fine that your web site has a "logical" look,that has a sense,of course.
So, if your site is already usable also if partially published you can do it and after you'll add the new pages.
Otherwise wait to finish ,than publish it.

There isn't a minimum number of page to publish :you can begin also with one ONLY page and than upgrade the site.

[peewhy]

I'd add that the right time to publish is when your site is right. Check all links, spelling and optimisation ..then hit the buttton.

[specter]

Exactly.
Unless than you are hurry, there isn't reason to publish partially the web site. Do it when it is ready.

[sadelb]

ok I will wait until I finish it..

[SashaCorinne]

I strongly disagree with this advice.

I would purchase the domain name immediately even if you only have a few pages finished. Submitting the site to search engines can be time consuming as well. Why wait till everything is perfect to then be sandboxed by Google for God know's how long? Submit your site even if it is small and not completely optimized. If it is even at the most basic level accessible (you have a keyword rich title, bold or linked keyword text at the top of the page, and good meta tags, spiders will pick it up. Yes, your ranking will be extremely low but at least your there. Then leave the page and do all your work bulding and updating. When you republish it should only take a few weeks versus a few months for yoru numbers to shoot up.

[sofree]

Get a domain, but do not submit. Place a link to it from another website.

[Elvie]

I completely agree with SashaCorinne.
Buy the domain name NOW. Why wait? I always buy the domain name, rough out a main page and get it uploaded. So what if it's not polished - you want to kickstart the search engine spiders now. Then polish and add content while your rankings climb!
Best of luck with your new site!

[FourDegreez]

What I've been doing lately is just getting the basic, core pages of a site out there on the web and then come back to it in the months that follow. So if I have an idea about a site I want to develop several months from now, I'll register the domain and create some basic pages NOW and it will be there to build off of in the future when I am ready.

[specter]

I completely agree with SashaCorinne.
Buy the domain name NOW. Why wait? I always buy the domain name, rough out a main page and get it uploaded. So what if it's not polished - you want to kickstart the search engine spiders now. Then polish and add content while your rankings climb!
Best of luck with your new site!

It's good to keep in mind that if you buy the domain an upload soon a page and link it to be founded by the spiders,when you upgrade the site you'll loose your ranking and you'll re-start all the work!

[charlier]

I would say put up your home page and a few secondary pages if you can. Use the same linking structure as you will use on the finished project. When you get your site done upload the new pages to replace the old ones. Don't change the URLs of the pages you put up now. You want to make it so you are just updating your pages when your site is finished.

[aleksl]

This doesn't do much good anymore.

I have a few domains (a) parked at my registrar, and (b) parked on my server. When domain is "empty" i.e. one "coming soon" page, I even get a PageRank of 0 from Google$. (search "www.mynewsite.com" returns a URL of the site, but not a title and description)

Once a website is created (content sites, I don't do spam), wait a month, and boom - you are in sandbox. Site is taken out of Google$ (search "www.mynewsite.com" returns nothing).

Sadly (or maybe even happily), 7 content sites, and each one has more traffic from other SEs than Google.

So - good luck to you trying to avoid $$$TheGoogleTrap$$$.

[sifredi]

Exactly. You cannot avoid the sandbox by registering 100 domains, wait 6 months with a "temp" page and then put up the content. The sandbox applies to pages, not domains. You could have a 5 year old website and still get affected by the sandbox on newly created pages containing "money" keywords.

[mblair]

You could have a 5 year old website and still get affected by the sandbox on newly created pages containing "money" keywords.

Really? I was under the impression it was site based -- if the sandbox was page based wouldn't more sites have problems getting newly created content indexed and weighted properly in the SERPS?

[volatilegx]

You could have a 5 year old website and still get affected by the sandbox on newly created pages containing "money" keywords.

I've seen evidence that contradicts this opinion.

[sifredi]

I've seen evidence that contradicts this opinion.

I have sites that supports it. If your site is about widgets and you put up 50 pages about creditcards, be sure google looks upon this with suspicion.

Everyone has different experiences though, and this is mine. I strongly believe that search engine looks at pages, not domains. That goes for ranking and also sandboxing.

[arran]

I have sites that supports it. If your site is about widgets and you put up 50 pages about creditcards, be sure google looks upon this with suspicion.

The sandbox is at a domain (not page) level. Badly ranked Creditcard pages on an unsandboxed domain just reinforces how competitive that particular sector is.