<noframes> in Netscape ?

How to keep <noframes> content from appearing in Netscape

[sevraypr]

Does anyone know the correct code to get <noframes> SE optimized content to work on an unframed page in Netscape browsers ? Stand alone <noframes> tags work fine with IE.... I've been trying all kinds of combinations with Netscape but I'm seeing the content appear on the page...
Thanks very much for whatever help you can offer.

[tedster]

Sorry, sevraypr, but there is no correct code for Netscape, This is because the NOFRAMES tag is only correct HTML on a frameset page, not a stand alone page.

It looks like IE ignores it (in general IE is more tolerant of non-standard code), but as you've seen, Netscape renders it.

[sevraypr]

Thanks very much... This is a solid answer to my question... I'm trying to get some content before the SEs on an image heavy index page... The client doesn't want to alter the look of their page... I won't use a font and background color that are similar because the SEs don't like that... I don't think that comment tags are indexed like they used to be... noframes are indexed (maybe except for Google now) but it's not a framed page.... Any suggestion are much appreciated.

[rcjordan]

I suspect that IE tolerates it because of IFRAMES, I wonder of NS6 will accept it?

In the meantime, you might try <NOSCRIPT>

[seth_wilde]

you could always put the page in a hidden frame....

[mivox]

My company's index page is very image heavy, and about the only content is has are alt tags and text links at the bottom of the page... all the text links use keywords describing the pages they link to.

All in all, our sub-pages tend to rank higher than our index page, but I don't worry much about it. The keyword links may help the subpage rankings, and I don't really mind if someone enters our site from the front door or a side door, as long as stop by.

[nicebloke]

do we know if <NOSCRIPT> comments are indexed?

[rcjordan]

Yes, I had some test pages that indicated that Google and AV were indexing the noscript section. However, I should add that the last time I checked this out was probably 6 months ago. At the time, it seemed to me that noscript keywords -though indexed- may have had a reduced weight in the algos, but that was strictly a gut call.

[rcjordan]

added re noscript

I've just retested an exact phrase hidden in a noscript section. Google, MSN, Fast, and AV all returned the page.

[nicebloke]

Interesting one. Thanks for that, will give it a run. How many words would you say is a 'sensible' amount to include here?

[rcjordan]

I've always kept it short, about the same as a meta tag. Remember, depending on the demographics of your site, a significant number of visitors might have js turned off, so you need to make it at least tolerable. I've also used this area to put in basic nav links, since I use external js for the bulk of navigation. I do not know if the SEs are spidering links found in <noscript>.