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The perfect keyword research tool

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ROLAND_F

2:45 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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How would you find "related" keywords from the list of keyword you have collected in your logfile ?

IanTurner

2:48 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Roget's Thesaurus. A copy sits in my office on a permanent basis.

Marcia

3:05 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Good question, Roland. I agree with Ian a thesaurus is good, and Roget's happens to be on line and free to use. I had thought when I found it that extracting data and inputting to some kind of keyword selector would be an interesting possibility for someone to do, but I can't imagine how it could be done and what the step would be to narrow it down further. I imagine there would have to be a routine to evaluate alternative words with information on whether they're actually used in searches.

For example, a thesaurus might tell me that tennis shoes are also called sneakers. Then I want to know whether people actually search for either of these terms, how competitive each is, and make choices from that information.

I can't imagine a keyword tool doing all that, but it sure would be nice. You did say to dream one up. :)

ROLAND_F

5:30 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tried some search in the Roget's Thesaurus online and it's a very good tool thank you very much, it's a great idea!

Also I think that people who know how to search try different keywords when the search result for a keyword is insufficient or not relevant so a tool that record clickstream at search engines could
record keywords that are related. Such tool could also record stats about keyword popularity so you have a way to record both popularity and related search.

Do directhit work like this to provide alternate search words at various SE ?

vitaplease

6:36 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Roland,

not exactly the answer to your question,
but in searching for new trafic on related keywords, I found that "joining" english multi word keyphrases into one word gets you German speaking and Scandinavian/Benelux clients, they tend to make their words as long as possible (even in english).

So for example "search engine result" could be "searchengineresult".

Try this "word" in Google and you will get amongst others German and Danish results.

angiolo

7:58 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Another tool that can help you is Wordweb. It is limited to English. You can download it (free) from:

[x-word.com...]

It is useful for no mother-tongue English to understand "new" English words.

ROLAND_F

8:25 pm on Jan 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Oops, maybe automatic translator can help too to find your keywords in other languages.

What do you think about using your keywords translated in other language ? Maybe you can find/hire someone to translate or proofread an automatic translation to give an overview about your website. In some situations people are willing to make some efforts and try to understand an other language even if they are not fluent. It may not work for commercial website but for website that are not commerce related it may work.

F.

ROLAND_F

2:50 pm on Jan 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tried WordWeb, very usefull tool too.

ROLAND_F

8:59 am on Jan 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A powerfull keyword tool that help you to find keywords related to your field and that give precise information about how many queries
for this keyword are typed at various search engine could have serious side effects.

What will happen when after multiple optimization everybody start to use the same keywords ?

I think that there will be a kind of feedback effect and keywords that once gave visit will be so popular among website that they will start to be less usefull.

What do you think ?

F.

mona

7:35 pm on Jan 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>I agree with Ian a thesaurus is good

So do I, but I actully find dictionary.com more useful. I think the synonyms they give are very precise. They also give you a list of "suggestions" if you mispell a word, unlike thesaurus.com where you'll just get a "not found".

minnapple

2:40 am on Feb 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I always thought onsite search tools were a waste of money. I.E. - SEARCH THIS SITE FOR-

Until I realized that you could extract what the user was searching for.

The datamining offered by this function is so obvious I had to look at myself in the mirror and say . . . duh!

MrNick

5:24 am on Feb 2, 2002 (gmt 0)



Why not use Roget's Thesaurus and feed it through the Bablefish Translator?

Nick Powers

ROLAND_F

9:11 pm on Feb 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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