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Just to tell you how wonderful Overture is...

You may interpret wonderful your own way

         

lusagalo

1:36 pm on May 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It takes them 5 day, to set up an account, but, not only this,
you say you want to invest an ammount, and at the end they try to make the game.... "yes, but with taxes..."

they change your messages, they say they will give you a budget?
I went through your self-service, come on!

Just aggressive policy to get the most.
What a wonderful difference with google.

sem4u

10:09 am on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't have a problem with setting up accounts and getting keywords reviewed. They seem to be improving all the time IMO.

lusagalo

10:32 am on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess overture in Spain is making such aggressive strategy as they are probably not as profitable as other overtures.

Well, they should understand that with a normal service providing benefits for us, we will continue to work with them... as we are doing with google.

What´s the point of making 500 euros from me in a first time if I never come back to buying keywords with them?

Maybe overture out of Spain works better...

iDKris

10:15 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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they're getting better... i fail to understand how they have periodic checks of certain terms and just change a search title, but what are you going to do? i make too much w/ them right now to leave

skibum

3:35 am on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lately, Overture US has been awesome to deal with, great help on all accounts, fast editorial turnaround, they make minor edits to the listings inserting a dash here and there instead of declining listings. If it's more than a dash, they come back with very good suggestions so the listings comply with their guidelines.

It's really been a pleasure to deal with them lately! :)

iDKris

8:35 pm on May 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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they make minor edits to the listings inserting a dash here and there instead of declining listings. If it's more than a dash, they come back with very good suggestions so the listings comply with their guidelines.

hahaha... a dash here and there. i've had titles totally changed, half of them don't even make sense once they get done w/ them.

Tropical Island

1:47 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Improved?

It takes 2 mins. 35 seconds to load my search term page.

It defauts first to "all listings" most of the time and then when I click the only category that I look at every day it takes a total of 2'35". Who's got the time to sit and wait for this through 4 different accounts.

Wouldn't a simple cookie work to default to your last choice and cut the time in half.

In AdWords they always return you to your last choice when you log in again.

eWhisper

2:25 am on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The last account I made with Overture, the new keywords were all approved with in 12 hours (and that was on a Saturday).

I had one issue with a single ad copy change they made, one email, about 2 hours later, and the issue was resolved.

I think they've made great leaps in the past year in customer service.

Their control panel is something totally different. Tropical Island has a very good point. They use to remember my preferences when I went to various pages, and now it seems every new page I view, I need to change display and view history settings.

skibum

7:21 am on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The interface could definitely use a bit of an upgrade but anymore, self serve listings get approved in as little as 20 minutes instead of 3-5 days.

They've been faster than Google at times and Google has no human review - maybe OV has some new auto approve technology?

webdiversity

5:37 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Overture does have an automatic approval when certain conditions apply.

Typically it's if there is no ambiguity in the keywords, the search volume is fairly low. What happens is they send out a link checker which will assess the content of the page and (this is speculation on my part) maybe run some sort of keyword analysis.

Generally it takes no more than a 20 minutes to get approvals, but it tends how busy the link checkers are...

Only works on DTC submitted keywords.

Works globally.

Awesome.

seanpecor

5:18 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm glad to see their bulk upload is back. I've been doing light maintenance of my Overture account for about 24 months while I concentrated on other initiatives. Overture has done really well by me, I'm generally pleased with their service. Sort of fire and forget with my particular site, and it just works.

Two years ago when I needed to submit another 22,000 terms, I noticed with horror that their bulk upload had gone bye-bye. So I purchased an Internet Explorer scripting tool, and wrote a PHP script to take my Mysql data and build a massive automation script. I fed the script into IE, and watched as my handy robot took over IE, and happily submitted 22,000 terms over the course of 72 hours, rofl. I bet there was some hand-wringing going on in Overture's NOC back then, ha!

Of course, with a total of 41,000 terms I really stressed the limit of Overture's management tool. Bid update pages would often take 5 minutes to display. The site-wide PPC update feature broke, and it took Overture a year to get a back-end that could handle my data :) I had to group my terms into smaller categories so I could make bid updates! Garsh I do so enjoy pushing the envelope!

In July I'll be submitting about another 50,000 more terms. If the management application borks after that I guess I'll have to delete my least popular terms to trim up my list :) Then it's on to all of the international Overtures where I'll be doing the same thing, wreaking havoc on Overture NOCs throughout the world, ha ha.

Sean.

bigjohnt

5:49 pm on Jun 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My particular "favorite" is when bumping up the bids on several terms as a test for a short term, the total spend goes up, way up... and they insist on a deposit for three days worth of traffic at THAT level to restart the account.

For example, taking an account with terms that generate say $200 daily average, .. going wild to test conversion of higher positions, and going to an average daily spend of $500, if you try to fund the account with $600 when it runs dry, you get a nasty little message that you have to deposit at least $1,500 for three days traffic to restart the account.

So, basically, if you want to test by spending a bit more, you are actually committing to spending WAY more next time you fund the account. Beautiful.

Imagine if the grocer worked like this?
"You bought $50 worth of meat last week for that graduation cookout, compared to your usual $15, so this time you must buy $150 worth of meat, or get out of line."

Its things like these that keep me from using the auto renewal in most instances.

rbarker

5:37 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm really pleased with O's service. I rarely have problems getting ads through. If I do, rather than swim upstream I wait a few days and try again. The second time is usually a charm from my chair.

I do have issues with their slow servers though. Have to agree with others here something has to be done about that. Also, I want to point and click my way (ads) into other countries just like G allows. Other than that, O rocks as far as I'm concerned.