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Overture is gone from Google

completly

     

ogletree

10:46 pm on Dec 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can not type in anything into Google to bring up overture including site:overture.com -asdf or site:content.overture.com -asdf. Ok lets see how many conspiracy theories we can come up with.

EliteWeb

12:23 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

skibum

7:03 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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was wondering why a search for the OV keyword tool in Google didn't bring it up......

sem4u

8:12 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How clever of them. Now even their own SEs cannot spider them! :o

percentages

8:29 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see ATW and Altavista are also blocking numerous directories. It doesn't make any sense to me. The Overture robots.txt is plainly a nonsense.

By all means block the bad guys, but why on earth block the good ones? Surely they should be looking for ways to capitalize on Google, not aim at Google's head and shoot themselves in the foot.

It is all very depressing, just when you think someone has a chance of fighting back they show a completely blinkered view.

All money has to be on M$ now, at least they know how to beg, borrow and steal the competitor's gusto!

1milehgh80210

8:30 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can not type in anything into Google to bring up overture<<
"goto is now overture"

for a redirect, roundabout way.

NFFC

8:31 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks to me like it has nothing to do with robots.txt, shows all the signs of a hand removal.

DaveN

11:14 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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looks like a hand ban to me too, remember when they banned position tech.

DaveN

Brett_Tabke

11:17 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What? It is a full robots.txt ban. Why wouldn't Google remove it?

viggen

11:20 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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just like
[hotbot.com...]

NFFC

11:21 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[google.com...] is what you get with robots.txt

[google.com...] is indicitive of a hand removal.

Looks like they even went for the uk.overture.com subdomain too.

DaveN

11:29 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree with NFFC on this a hand edit always takes out the.

If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: www.overture.com

[google.com...]

[google.com...]

Notice the difference.

DaveN

glengara

11:36 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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*..completly*
Apart from their ads.....

Yidaki

11:50 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If i do a search for overture google at least returns overture.de at #3. It's just the url (no title, no snippet) since overture.de redirects to [content.overture.com...] using a 302. Also goto.com redirects to [content.overture.com...] using a 302 ...

overture.com -> 302 -> [content.overture.com...]
overture.de -> 302 -> [content.overture.com...]
goto.com -> 302 -> [content.overture.com...]

= multiple domains, all redirecting to the same sub domain. We all get penalized for such a set up. Why not ov too?

I doubt it's a hand removal. To me it looks like a major server mess they are doing at ov - bad redirects, robots.txt, duplicates etc.

sidyadav

1:49 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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how stupid of these people. huh. Banning their own products. lol

Sid

Chndru

1:53 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Banning their own products.

Maybe they gonna rebrand it at ads.yahoo.com?

john316

1:54 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>how stupid of these people.

Actually, its smart; taking back your brand by banning the bot. I expect many others to follow.

Yidaki

2:54 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> taking back your brand by banning the bot

And reinforcing the brand by booking AdWords ...

EliteWeb

3:40 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They could be rebranding, or... They realized that everyone came to their site from Google. I mean, each and everytime I wanted to find their keyword tool I went to google and searched, now they have you finding the page and bookmarking it. Skip the google search.

Chndru

3:43 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Skip the google search

Then, why all the spiders on the planet?

ogletree

3:49 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That would be so cool if everybody did that. Of course that would never happen.

Yidaki

3:54 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thinking about eggs and baskets and thinking about the independance a network like ov needs, i find this a pretty smart statement and prob #1 in the books of the Yahoo gang:

>Skip the google search

too much information

3:58 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It looks as if Google also bans bots from their SERPs, as does AltaVista.

With a PR of 10 the Google SERPs would really foul up the whole PR system if those links counted as backlinks. I guess this proves that linking to your SERPs really is a waste of time, but it helps the SERPs get a nice PR.

Not only that, but because the SERPs on Google are blocked from bots, it keeps the PR on the site. (not that it needs help) ;)

Robino

4:18 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing three Ads. for Overture.com.

 

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