Reliability of Kwd suggestion Tool

how far do you believe in it

[le_gber]

Hi,

Just went on overture to try to find the next big thing for my ideas of website and looked for keywords in the UK section.

I found one that both suits me and did around 12000 search in march (or is it april?) but when I go on Google to look for site that keyword I found less pages than the actual search (only 10000+ pages).

What I'm then wondering is how reliable is this suggestion tool? Is there any hidden influencing thingy that I should be aware of. Or did I just find my niche market :)?

My kword search was a 2 word search term with very popular 1st keyword (80000+) and quite popular second one.

What are you thought on this, dear fellow WW Members

Thanks

Leo

[hannamyluv]

It appears you found your niche market. It happens. I currently have 3 ads that are running on high volume, no comp. keyword phrase groups. When you find one of those, you do a little happy dance and thank the SE gods.

OV suggestion tool is pretty reliable. It has a few quirks that you need to be aware of and you have to realize that the numbers are from OV and partners, not the whole web and that the numbers are from last month. If you what to double check the numbers, go to wordtracker. I have found that the numbers shown on wordtracker are lower but then you have to keep in mind that they are only giving you a sample of the web.

[le_gber]

I went on wordtracker but doesn't show me that number at all (barely 200 search) BUT when I look on Overture USA it's closer to wordtracker.

May be a UK niche!

What do you think? Glich or niche?

Thanks

Leo

[le_gber]

Anybody else here to help me :( :( :(

Leo ;)

[buckworks]

Overture's keyword tool is great for scouting out general concepts but be aware that it can give a seriously misleading impression of the actual searches people used. Their "matching" lumps a lot of variants into the same report. Singular, plural, hyphenated, misspelled, different word order, etc. are all reported as one search term and you can't tell which word people actually searched for.

That works fine for setting up Overture bids, because you don't need separate bids for widgets, widjets, widget's, wid-get, etc. However, for building pages that you hope will get noticed by the free search engines, you need to know more detail than Overture tells you. There's little point optimizing a page for "widget" if people are actually searching for "widjett".

[martinibuster]

As far as wordtracker is concerned you may want to peek into this ongoing discussion:

[webmasterworld.com ]

[le_gber]

Thanks guy, I'll wait for the april figures and check if the same is happening again, and then, I'll see what I'll do.

I don't think the mispelled words would influence the results they are really REALLY common words.

Thanks for the link for wordtracker discussion

Thanks again to all of you

Leo

[le_gber]

I'll wait for the april figures and check if the same is happening again

april results on: still ~ 10000 searches - will do something then!

Wish me luck ;)

Leo

[CWright]

Here is my confounding experience.

I am not using overture yet. The keyword I
am interested supposedly got 18000+ hits
in March and April.

In Google search results, I get placed between
1 to 4 for each of the four variations of the
keyword (singular, plural, hyphenated singular,
hyphenated plural). However, when I look at
my server logs, I get no more than 5 hits to
my site from each of the four variations.

Even assuming only 10000 of the 18000 hits occur on
Google based search results (e.g., Yahoo), it
seems pretty strange to me that only 20 of those
10000 searchers will click on the #1 or #2
ranked non-sponsored listing.

Any explanations? Thank you!