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My Credit Card Application Wants to Know if I Launder Money?

         

adamnichols45

10:13 pm on Feb 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does any body have experience in this type of thing?

I want to apply for a business credit card!

jimbeetle

4:35 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just want to bump this up because I'm interested in how the two go together. Is this a UK thing of some sort?

bcolflesh

5:06 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've lived in NJ long enough to know that you should never document any money laundering you may be undertaking.

LifeinAsia

5:14 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've lived in NJ long enough to know that you should never document any money laundering you may be undertaking.

But do you document the money for laundering the undertaker?

Seriously though, adamnichols45- can you post some more details about what you're asking? I don't understand the correlation between money laundering and a business credit card.

adamnichols45

10:31 am on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Well basically i went to apply for a credit card and they was asking for documents in relation to money laundering!

When i checked the list of documents they includeded the following.

Bank statements
certificate of incorperation
passport

etc
etc

Like you i am to confused about this!

Lex_Luther

10:32 am on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Money laundering is one of my favorite topics, espesially when drinking aged rum. But im not sure what a business credit card has to do with it all?

Dayo_UK

10:38 am on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)



In the UK you have to supply certain identification documents when opening bank accounts, sharedealing accounts, credit cards - basically anything financial.

It is a money laundering prevention method - you will not be able to open an account without providing this information - why the confusion?

Is money laundering just a UK term? - other countries might call it something else.

andye

3:32 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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When i checked the list of documents they includeded the following.

Bank statements
certificate of incorperation
passport

Well, yes. This is normal. Any bank will want proof of ID before you open a bank account, get a credit card, or whatever.

They want to check that Little Web Design Ltd isn't really Cosa Nostra Laundries Ltd.

Like Dayo_UK, I'm having trouble seeing where the cause for confusion comes in here, could you explain some more?

hth, a.

update: a Google search for "money laundering" brings up the law on this (Money Laundering Regulations 2003) as the top result, the relevant bit is:


Identification procedures

4. - (1) In this regulation and in regulations 5 to 7 -

(a) "A" means a person who carries on relevant business in the United Kingdom; and

(b) "B" means an applicant for business.

(blah, blah, blah ...)

(3) A must maintain identification procedures which -

(a) require that as soon as is reasonably practicable after contact is first made between A and B -

(i) B must produce satisfactory evidence of his identity;

So that's what the banks are doing.

LifeinAsia

4:59 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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adamnichols45,

That's typical when opening a bank account. The bank has to know (legal reuirement in the U.S.) that you are who you are. If you are a business, then the bank has to know that you actually have the authority to represent that business.

Otherwise, you could be a low level worker who works in the mail room in that company. You periodically slip into your pocket checks that are made out to the company. During your lunch break, you go to the bank and cash them in the "company" account you just setup. After work, you hit the ATM to get the cash for the checks you deposited. Understandably, the banks (as well as businesses) would prefer to discourage this practice! :) Also, the IRS needs to know who to tax for the interest income.

The money laundering angle is similar. A drug dealer (terrorist, Mafia wise guy, etc.) opens a bank account for a "business" that doesn't really exist. He gets a big wire transfer from an offshore account ("it's related to my business"). Then he withdraws the money to pay for "expenses."

adamnichols45

7:43 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ok thanks -

Im new to the whole business accounts thing. I was just surprised they wanted to know so much about me at such an early stage!

rocknbil

9:40 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It is a money laundering prevention method - you will not be able to open an account without providing this information - why the confusion?

Been watching this one since it started and was waiting for it to pan out. Yes, in the US the term "money laundering" is simply associated with banking illegal funds and is seldom referred to a process involving prevention at financial institutions. More like identification verification.

So now I can let out a hearty laugh at

I've lived in NJ long enough to know that you should never document any money laundering you may be undertaking.

:-D

adamnichols45

11:04 pm on Feb 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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haha yes i was confused by that comment - just goes to show how different we all takes things -

uk vs usa

andye

2:09 pm on Feb 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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in the US the term "money laundering" is simply associated with banking illegal funds and is seldom referred to a process involving prevention at financial institutions. More like identification verification.

It's exactly the same here in the UK.

The OP's bank are just using a bit of verbal shorthand...

best, a.