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Taking pictures of products for Ecommerce site

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scottmonaco

5:13 am on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi All, I run a small website business that oustsouces as much as possible. Ok, enough about me :)
Most of the back-end work is done by my partners who are an email away. My question is: What experience has anyone had in creating Estores. A new cliet of mine is a womens clothing store and I will be presenting her a proposal. I hink I need to include taking pictures of her inventory, maybe a white paper on the floor and lay items on floor for pictures. Has anyone done this? What about maintenance, when the new seasons fashion? THanks! and this forum rocks!

pleeker

5:23 am on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld, Scott.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking -- are you wondering how others go about taking product pictures for commerce sites?

If so, my best advice would be to go spend $20-40 at a local fabric store getting some colored backdrops that you can hang or pin or tack to a wall. At minimum, get one dark color (black is good) and one light color (white or off-white is good). Some items photo well in front of different colors (gray, for example, rarely comes out well in front of a white backdrop).

Then get a big table or some kind of flat platform that you can place the products on. Straight, head-on pix with some depth behind them are usually the best, and if you're shooting stuff on the floor, you'll have to lay down to get that effect. (Shooting down to an item on the floor eliminates any depth behind the item.)

If you have the luxury of spending a couple hundred dollars on lighting, go for it. Digital cameras today can do a nice job without any pro-level lighting, but if you have it you can really do a bangup job and set your photos apart from other sites' photos.

And lastly, go out to some of the major clothing retailers (think L.E. and E.B. as a start) and see how they show product images. You can learn a lot from what you like and don't like from the sites that sink 4-, 5-, and 6-figures into their product photography. :)

Hope this is something like what you're looking for.

scottmonaco

5:46 am on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wow, yeah, you hit the nail on the head. EB was a site I did look at. So you think depth is important? If it laying on the floor I dont understand how I could get depth unless you mean standing up on the floor a few feet away from the backdrop. I run a low-cost service since I use low-cost designers from middle america and offshore, but if I have to physically go there and set up a photo shoot, gee, thats st!nks. Maybe some of his manufactures have some photos at their site? Is this what is usually done for these sell sites?

pleeker

6:37 am on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



So you think depth is important? If it laying on the floor I dont understand how I could get depth unless you mean standing up on the floor a few feet away from the backdrop.

What some of the 'pros' do to create depth can be as simple as folding the sleeves in a natural pose that happens to sit on top of the stomach of a sweater, for example. Not a ton of depth, but it gets away from the flat look enough.

If you have access to someone who would model the clothes, that might look great. On occasion, we've even tacked clothes onto the wall to get the right image.

I just think you want to avoid the sleeves-fully-stretched-out-to-the-point-of-splitting-the-seams look. Too "flat" for my taste.

Maybe some of his manufactures have some photos at their site? Is this what is usually done for these sell sites?

That's a possibility ... couldn't hurt to ask.

Fenceman

2:41 pm on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For a women's clothing store, showing the clothes on a model/manikin is probably best. Most clothes just don't look right without something to fill them. Maybe a stack of folded sweaters or shoes would be some exceptions.

You seem hesitant to go out to the client and setup a photoshoot. Since you subcontract so much already, have you thought of doing the same for the photos? Surely there's a photog in your client's area. Maybe check for a photography school or a community college with photography classes for some cheap labor.

Or, you could put it off on the client. They provide the images they want on the site. How they get them is up to them. Also, the quality of the pics is up to them. If they shoot in bad light or with a similair colored background to the garment, it's their fault.

It's all a matter of how much they are willing to pay you and what you're willing to do.

As for maintenance, you probably have two choices. They retain you on a regular basis to make site updates/changes or you design a way for them to do it themselves.

Obviously the self-updating will be more expensive up front, but it will probably be cheaper for them in the long run and they don't have to wait for you to make the changes. Of course, it also means that you'll be out of the photography loop, so setting up the photo shoot for the first batch of images is probably pointless.

Good luck :)

scottmonaco

4:18 pm on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All great points nd good ideas, thanks. I think models are ok, but EB seems to have them flat and looks good as well. I dont really want to suggest tehclient do things himself unless he requests that. I dont mind doing maintenance, it gives me a chance to talk to them and perhaps leads to more business ideas. I suppose my wife could try to take the pictures during the day when I am at a day job, then I could upload to my developer. The idea of having soem local take pictures is good, but probably too costly for my business model, although a pro or even a decent college kid learning would do much better than me.

nixt

7:00 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)



Hi--

Just thought i would reply here as i've had some recent experience with a small business clothing store and have come out of the experience learning an aweful lot....

For one, i've realized that it's quite a bit of work to make a small business clothing store succeed - both in terms of time spent on site design/production and on marketing/SEO. This requires a committment by the small business owner as they do not generally have a large budget to sink on the site, marketing or maintenance. Frequent updates are really vital - if the product line doesn't change much, i would recommend the owner write some sort of diary, events posting, recent news to keep repeat visitors interested....now onto the photography.....

Wow....did i ever overestimate how much work this would be. I new i was a novice photographer but i sort of had an interest in it and thought what the hell. Client did not have the money to put in $1000.00 for professional photography. I bought some lights and some umbrellas, plus fabric backdrop like what. Client was VERY particular on how her custom clothing looked. We tried human models which was very, very difficult to coordinate on a regular basis. We moved to static models but constantly fought with lighting. We had a cheaper digital camera that i was using as well as 35mm. I would have preferred for the client to just leave me alone to play with things but that wasn't the case - because she knew i was an amateur she was in my face the whole time....very frustrating. In total, we spent months and months trying to get our setup correct. Now that i have a better idea of what i'm doing, i'm much more prepared...but i will seek out more professional photographers for advice on lighting, setup and general photographic techniques. In the end, i don't think the photos turned out too bad. I know i have a long, long way to go.
My relationship with the client is still solid and she is happy with where the site is at to date....actually heading to her Christmas party tonight :)

cheers

scottmonaco

8:11 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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YEs, I think my client will handle picture himslef, so I may be off the hook, I like someone's idea of a student doing the work as well. I think he wants to go the model approach...

Shadows Papa

4:51 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I do the photos for my wife's store web site. It's the sort of thing that MUST stay current. It's almost like software - company A comes out with product on Monday, you come out on Tuesday, too late. They beat you to it.
So, when new product arrives, I must shoot it and post it right away. What that means - I spend about 10 hours a week keeping new stuff and other changes on the site (like sales announcements, events, etc.) If people hear a new book is coming out soon, and we aren't the first to display and announce having it, we don't sell the book. 'A' does.
I can't sit back for even two weeks or our site is old and stale. Some folks visit every week to see "what's new".
This means a lot of pictures, a lot of scans. Some things I can do in the store, most has to come home here for better lighting, etc. (My digital camera isn't putting out faithful colors now either, red looks orange, blue has a green to it, etc.)
For the fabric, I must bring home a piece of everything that comes in. Last time that meant putting up scans of 69 fabrics in the line. That also means thumbnails AND large shots of each. Books - we get several new each week - there is no way on this green earth I can keep up so I pick the best or most anticipated. There are several other products we post as well.
Let me tell you - wish I got paid for it as it's nearly a full time job! I've been told, however, that we've got the best site for what we do.