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1:35 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For those of you who may be seeing strange results on the following DCs:

72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104

Do a site:mydomain.com check for your site & check the pages that are returned.

Do the serp titles & descriptions returned look close to being identical (eg. site-wide title and description tags maybe)?

I have an idea brewing :-)

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Nope...completely different titles and description for each result.

However, only showing 88 results [all non-supp], whereas most DC's show 60,000+ results, most of which are supp.

The supp issue does not seem to be affecting SERP positioning,as many keywords/phrases are in the first 10 results.

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No. Not identical.

The title is exactly my title. The snippet is my metatag desription.

Now let us hear that brewing idea :-)

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FWIW.

For one of our sites that's been heavily impacted using site:mysite.com...

Prior to past few days on Google.com (don't know the IP or exact date it changed) - Had 450 pages of content with updates made within the past two weeks.

Past few days on Google.com (216.239.51.99) - Showing 1,000+ pages that haven't existed in over two months (domain parking links).

64.233.185.104, 66.249.93.104, 64.233.187.99, 64.233.187.104 - Showing 1,000+ pages that haven't existed in over two months (domain parking links).

72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104 - Showing 20 pages of content that is over two weeks old.

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>>>>Past few days on Google.com (216.239.51.99) - Showing 1,000+ pages that haven't existed in over two months (domain parking links).

64.233.185.104, 66.249.93.104, 64.233.187.99, 64.233.187.104 - Showing 1,000+ pages that haven't existed in over two months (domain parking links).

72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104 - Showing 20 pages of content that is over two weeks old. <<<

Did a check using site:mysite found that :64.233.185.104, 66.249.93.104, 64.233.187.99, 64.233.187.104 - Showing results I had 4 days ago.

72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104 : had results I first started seeing two days ago.

72.14.207.99, 72.14.207.104 : showing results I have not seen before. Evidently the latest data as my site is now down to two pages. Index page and an article I wrote about "widget maintenance".
I would suspect these last two dc's are the most current. Woe is me.

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Texasville,

These two DC's were showing a low count on results about 2 weeks ago. It was mentioned on here. They must be test DC's of one type or another, as they just show a sample of actual SERP's :-)

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72.14.207.104 is interesting. On that DC I've got about 2/3rds of my pages back. Funny thing is that at the very end it shows 3 pages that haven't existed for over a year and they aren't even marked as supplemental.
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Easygoin & reseller:

Kinda shoots that one out of the water ... I am looking at that situation myself, and those DCs are only showing pages which utilize my sitewide title & meta info ... Was thinking those DCs may be filter pages down to those that are close to being duplicate ...

Guess not :-/

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The "72.14.207.99" DC shows many results that are not an exact match for the search query.

For a search that could only ever return 20 results, it attempts to show 46 000...

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Hmm, for a new site, Google had 2 pages indexed a few days ago, and now only shows one, in all DCs, for a site:domain.com search.

On the 72 DC I see this: for a particular keyword search, one page from the site appears as the #1 result, and it is marked as a supplemental result. That page is the page that does not show up when you do a site:domain.com search.

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Doing a quick check on some dc's this morning, I found this weird stuff on [66.249.93.104....] A search for site:mysite returns both www and identical non-www pages. Doing a site:www.mysite search produces no non-www pages.
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>> Doing a site:www.mysite.com search produces no non-www pages. <<

I won't. You are asking for only www pages with that search.

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Quick Weather Report..Google Datacenters Watch

Good morning Folks

After 2 cups of Danish brand Cappuccino, and a shining morning, here is a quick weather report.. by Reseller and only on WebmasterWorld :-)

I see relatively stable DCs this morning. As to the search quality of my test search query, I would say still two sites at top 10 which shouldn't have been there. I.e Poor Search Relevancy, unfortunately.

To my best "watching" ability, I can see in general two (could be three) sets of serps divided on the DCs as follows:

Set-I
[64.233.171.***...]
[64.233.185.***...]
[64.233.187.***...]
[72.14.203.***...]
[72.14.207.***...]

Set-II
[64.233.161.***...]
[64.233.167.***...]
[64.233.179.***...]
[64.233.183.***...]
[64.233.189.***...]
[66.102.7.***...]
[66.102.9.***...]
[66.102.11.***...]
[216.239.37.***...]
[216.239.39.***...]
[216.239.53.***...]
[216.239.57.***...]
[216.239.59.***...]
[216.239.63.***...]

Sorry if I forgot to mention any other DC.

Wish you all a great sunny day.

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What about [66.249.93.104.?...]
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Ellio

"What about [66.249.93.104"...]

It might represent a thrid set Set-III, slightly different of Set-II when run my test search query.

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It's my birthday today.... and the reuslts on 64.233.187.104 are the best present yet :-)
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For my site no difference on any datacenter: Still only 80k in the index (drop from 1 million!).
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Yeah but my point is...I haven't seen dup www and non-www in mysite search in a loooong time. Not since shortly after 301 redirect months ago. Since then, I have had no non-www pages in that search.
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happy b'day petehall, u share ur b'day with one of my ex ;) anyway, its a good day for me too, my indexed pages are back again
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"It's my birthday today."

Happy birthday. And I know... no birtday without Google Datacenters Watching :-)

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I just received a couple of visitors from google for a certain kw combination that I never seen before.

Right now, these datacenters seem completely different:
[64.233.179.104...]
[64.233.187.104...]

Please have a look!

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Yes they are different.

And still in accordance with my msg #:13 on this thread ;-)

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I just received a couple of visitors from google for a certain kw combination that I never seen before.
Right now, these datacenters seem completely different:
[64.233.179.104...]
[64.233.187.104...]

Please have a look!

Is the flux moving towards those data sets. What I mean is do we expect those results to migrate across onto the other data centres?

Has anyone seen any pattern in the migration that we can use to predict this in the future?

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I can't help but feel something along the lines of 64.233.187.104 is going to spread.

That DC shows progression for numerous sites I watch in the way I would expect.

64.233.179.104 shows similar progression, however some searches look a little odd. Perhaps it is incomplete.

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I can't help but feel something along the lines of 64.233.187.104 is going to spread.

FWIW I think that you may be right. It seems to me that those SERPS are the nearest to the pre Big Daddy situation. If I was a search technician at Google my objective would be to get the SERPS back to pre major infratructure upgrade first and then start to play with the algo.

They need to go back to pre BD situation in order to have some control and ability to predict algo changes. In effect what they have done is like driving a car onto a patch of ice, they have skidded all over the place and now they need to slow down a bit and get the car on the right side of the road.

I suspect that the flux that we have seen over the last couple of weeks has been caused not by them trying to alter the algo but more likely by them trying to get back to square one. In our niche there was nothing at all wrong with the pre BD SERPS so for us it would be a good thing to return to those (thank you very much guys).

Sid

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There are at least three (major) sets of data out there:

One set is on most DCs (much more than half).
Another on about a third of the DCs.
The last on 72.14.207.*** (only?), with wierd results.

I see big differences in supplemental results across the three sets.

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Forgot to say, but [72.14.207.104...] has been appearing as the default www.google.co.uk datacentre for several hours each day for the last few days, too.
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The title for my home page that Google is displaying is different than the the title in Google's CACHED version of the page. This is the first I have seen in results... seems weird. The title has always been the title from the page Google caches. But the title is an old title that is not on the cached version, current/live version, or DMOZ title..
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Forgot to say, but [72.14.207.104...] has been appearing as the default www.google.co.uk datacentre for several hours each day for the last few days, too.

FWIW In my niche.

That (http://72.14.207.104/) is what I would call one step back towards the pre Big Daddy SERPS. As are:
[64.233.161.107...]
[64.233.161.147...]
[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]
[64.233.171.107...]
[64.233.171.147...]
[216.239.39.99...]
[216.239.53.99...]
[216.239.57.99...]
[216.239.59.99...]
[66.102.11.99...]
[66.102.9.99...]
[66.102.7.99...]
[216.239.37.99...]

[64.233.187.104...] is an example of more or less where we were pre Big Daddy. As are:
[64.233.179.99...]
[64.233.187.99...]
[64.233.189.104...]
[64.233.161.99...]
[64.233.161.104...]
[64.233.167.104...]
[64.233.167.99...]

The big question in my mind is which way are we rolling?

Best wishes

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[64.233.179.104...]
[64.233.187.104...]

I like these - I hope they keep them. :)

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