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What to do once your site goes PR6

         

DXL

4:22 am on Apr 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Two years ago I designed a four page site to sell widgets from, after a year I pulled the shopping cart system but left the products and descriptions and a message that I'd restore the shopping cart soon.

I had a banner ad on every page of two PR5 sites of mine for a year, with absolutely no other backlinks besides those two sites. I recently removed the links from the two sites, but just realized today that the widget site is now PR6.

This is my first PR6 site. Should I add the links back to the other sites to keep this one at PR6? Should I consider adding links to other related sites of mine or associates on the homepage of my PR6 site? (the other 3 pages are all PR5). I'm trying to determine what I should and shouldn't add links to on the homepage.

tedster

7:38 am on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If I found such a hidden gem in my domain portfolio right now, for the moment at least, I would temper any excitement about the new-found PR wealth and take a hard look before throwing a lot of resources in that direction.

As you can read in the PR Update thread [webmasterworld.com], something seems very odd with the current toolbar PR reports. I would suggest first using other search engines to see if indeed there are significant backlinks to this domain -- enough to make you think that the PR6 is a real thing and not a data accident of some kind.

If the PR6 holds up for you and looks to be "real", then you can begin some planning, and perhpas some judicious interlinking with related domains you own.

egurr

3:11 pm on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think tedster is right. I'd probably work it with small modifications to try to get to PR7.
I don't know what it would take to get a site up to 7 but I do know from research the PR scale is not linear. PR7 is the goal for doing just about anything with your site.
From PR3 to PR4 is a nice bump locally. PR5 is quite a bit better. PR6 is a nice bump for national or world wide but PR7 is much higher.

From what I can see PR6 to PR7 would take more content on the page with PR6 (minimum 1200 words maybe?) and then tie the entire site in to the same content.

When you get to PR7 I'd sell everything related to widgets because you want even have to do SEO, the SERPS take care of themselves at that level.

Just my two cents.

Pico_Train

4:04 pm on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PR7 still needs careful and attention. It won't just get you to the top. I've been there, it's very nice, even been to PR8 temporarily.

The thing is a PR7 is that you suddenly have everyone's attention and they all want a piece of your action. As such the competition erupts against you.

Monitor your PR6 which is a very position to be in, come up with some good ideas and if all holds then away you go.

digicam

5:15 pm on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)



Why are u bothered with PR? does the site get any traffic? that is the acid test surely?

DXL

8:31 pm on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why are u bothered with PR? does the site get any traffic? that is the acid test surely?

The site gets traffic, its on the first page of Yahoo for the product that was originally sold on the site. In fact, half of the sites on the first page of Yahoo are huge sites that simply provide product info on the widgets, the other half are major retail sites.

A linkdomain check on yahoo shows about 335 backlinks (looks like a lot are ad driven sites that opted to just link to me without asking).

But if I'm no longer selling the product (which maybe I should considering its position in the SERPS), then traffic is completely irrelevant to me. What matters is that its a PR6 site that I could use to pass pagerank on to other sites of mine (which in turn gives me more leverage when offering link exchanges on those sites). I just want to make sure that its not going to hurt anything to link it to a non-widget site.

rkhare

8:37 pm on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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why dont you just put the shopping cart back and then keep us posted.

(also, you can link to sites of many of webmasters here in WW ;))

trinorthlighting

12:44 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I could use some deep links from a PR6 site...

DXL

7:42 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I could use some deep links from a PR6 site...

Does deep linking really make a difference? I've read that it doesn't help your site get indexed any better than a direct link to your homepage. Or is it just to help you promote that individual page better in the SERPS? (like a page dedicated to one specific area of web design, like legal website design, etc).

treeline

8:21 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Almost all my Google searches go to interior pages. A single good deep link can completely boost an interior page on a particular term, often to number one.

It's hard to make a home page top the SERPs for a very many phrases. It's easy to have an interior page top the charts for a single term. Add lots of interior pages, and suddenly you're getting traffic on literally thousands of different keyword combinations.

tedster

8:57 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now you're giving away all the good secrets, treeline. But I'm not worried -- only a few people seem to listen to ideas like that anyway ;)

DXL

11:53 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the insight, treeline. I may try a little deep linking for one or two niche pages on my site and see what impact it has.

walkman

12:03 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



>> I had a banner ad on every page of two PR5 sites of mine for a year, with absolutely no other backlinks besides those two sites. I recently removed the links from the two sites, but just realized today that the widget site is now PR6.

First thiing to do is not get your hopes up: there's no way that two PR5 links alone could bring a site to PR6. It seems like a glitch, and I'd say that at most you have a (real) PR4, with a PR3 being more likely.

RunnerD

1:27 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have 1430 quality back links according to yahoo link command and I can't seem to get to a pr6, im still a pr5. Don;t tell me 2 or 3 links is gonna get you a pr6

DXL

1:44 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First thiing to do is not get your hopes up: there's no way that two PR5 links alone could bring a site to PR6. It seems like a glitch, and I'd say that at most you have a (real) PR4, with a PR3 being more likely.

To this and the previous post, keep in mind that I only mentioned placing links on two sites of mine, there seems to be a number of backlinks coming from other sites that I didn't request. Since the site is doing very well in the SERPS, I don't know if its a glitch. If it was PR6 and on the 30th page of Yahoo and Google, I'd agree, but its on the first and second page for very competitive keywords.

I have another site that I launched a few months ago, plenty of backlinks from two PR5 sites were all it took to bring it to PR5 recently.

trinorthlighting

1:10 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I found some sites that have very few backlinks (less than 10) from a PR 6 or 7 site and their sites rank high.

treeline

1:11 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have 1430 quality back links according to yahoo link command and I can't seem to get to a pr6, im still a pr5. Don;t tell me 2 or 3 links is gonna get you a pr6

Quality is a relative thing. My mom has a really lame website. My brother set it up for her, and she's just impossible to deal with on it. So if you need her company's shipping address, phone, or what industry they're in, you'll get it from her website, with little more and no style.

I was looking at her website recently with my brother, trying to help him figure out what to do in spite of her. No SEO work has ever been done on this site. It has a looong url, name of company, no keywords. Noticed the PR6 bar, and said "that can't be!" Well, over the last year or two all of her clients, proud of the relationship, linked to her really lame website. There's all kinds of 'quality' back links. (a lot less than a thousand though)

This definitely involved no effort on her part, she's even resisted making the site useful. But her clients love her. As a result, so does Google.

Will 2 or 3 links get you a PR6? Who cares! What you need is to place well for a few search terms, and it can definitely do that with a few well chosen text links.

cerebrum

1:22 am on Apr 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have a PR6 website and Google increased the threshold and it felt back to PR5.