canonical fix may be coming

[arbitrary]

I just did site: to a few of my sites that have been trashed by the canonical problem. They sites would previously show pages on both www and non-www. The pages were all supplemental, showing ancient cache dates and they were never crawled much.

When I did site: now, I am getting just the homepage. Normally, I would not be happy about a site being largely de-indexed but I have a feeling (hope?) that this is the first sign that they will finally fix this problem.

Any thoughts, g1smd, where are you?

[ramachandra]

Yes, I am also noticing the same for 2 my sites which were in supplemental index except the home page, today I can see only the home page on this 72.14.203.104 data center with the latest cache and rest of the pages are gone from the index.

IMO Google is resolving the canonical issue.

[arbitrary]

Doing site: again today shows that the old views I was seeing are back. The site again shows the split beteen www and non-www pages with old cache dates - a return to SH/canonical problems. I think this may be a case of just seeing another datacenter that has not wiped out all these pages, hoping anyway.

[g1smd]

Try site:domain.com "keyword" and you'll be surprised that nothing has actually been "fixed".

[iThink]

canonical fix may be coming

We need a separate "Rumors and Gossip" forum on webmasterworld because this problem still exists.

[arbitrary]

Ha, ha... but I never said the problem was fixed, I said a solution may be coming.

Now when I do site: I see the old useless supplemental pages divided between www and non-www as I did before. It was encouraging for a while when site: showed just my homepage.

g1smd, if I just see my homepage in there again, I will try adding the keyword but I don't think that will bring back results.

I think a solution is close and I also will guess that the first sign that a solution is coming will be that when you do site: , you see all pages gone except your homepage.

[cleanup]

"canonical fix may be coming"

No way, can't see a thing, nada.

I have been waiting six months now and absolutely no progress.
So please don't post without basis, people might just believe you.

[kaled]

A quick and simple test is a search as follows...

site:domain.com -inurl:www

A fix may be coming, but there exists some sort of bodge in the algo that works sometimes so it's easy to jump to the conclusion that it's improving. The search above on my site shows about 10% of pages.

Kaled.

[g1smd]

Try site:domain.com -inurl:www keyword and see the count increase.

[LunaC]

Nope, not seeing a thing here either. www and non www along with pages that haven't existed for years are still listed.

I can't even express how frustrated this is making me... I've done the 301's like they said, waited for a year now and nothing... ancient caches, I cant even rank for my own domain name or even the most obscure terms.

Edit: I do see changes, sometimes related: and link: show nothing, right now link; shows 1,190.

related: I'm the last on the list, every other site I just tested is number 1 related to their site.

"site.com" I'm currently 38 out of 627 :S

www vs non www keep fluctuating, same with the old pages.. seen this before many times. So, yes, I do see changes, but nothing I've not seen before. Nothing to give me any real hope I'm afraid.

[g1smd]

I see crazy stuff at [72.14.207.99...] and at [72.14.207.104...] for the last few days, on some searches.

[AlexK]

My tuppennyworth:

site:mydomain.com  48,500 
site:mydomain.com -inurl:www 98 (all supplemental) 
site:mydomain.com -inurl:www keyword 98 (ditto) 

IP: 66.249.93.104
Supplemental Cache date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:36:53 +0000
301 date: 2005-01-31

PS
Wouldn't it be nice if the [ pre ] on this board worked as advertised?

[edited by: AlexK at 5:19 pm (utc) on April 6, 2006]

[arbitrary]

I can't even express how frustrated this is making me... I've done the 301's like they said, waited for a year now and nothing... ancient caches, I cant even rank for my own domain name or even the most obscure terms.

Said so well, could not agree more.

I believe that one day search will be regulated like many other industries are today. Sure, they have a right to choose the top 10 anyway they see fit. But controlling such an important part of the internet, they should be responsible for laying waste to sites and not giving them an opportunity to compete fairly for a top ten spot. Their incompetence should be punished, shame on all those PHD's.