Next google update?

[sandpetra]

Any idea? i was expecting it some time in the last week...

[harry_wales]

Why worry about it?

It will happen when it happens. Better off spending your time improving your site than worrying about Google.

[edited by: tedster at 12:00 am (utc) on Jan. 24, 2006]
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[peewhy]

Don't get caught in the 'next google update' trap. Concentrate on keeping your site ready, and the time will come.

[sandpetra]

er...did my origional email suggest I was having palpitations? :)

i've spent the last 3 months updating my site - now I'm wanting to see how I Pagerank.

And have you looked at your logs recently? 70-80% of my traffic is coming from Google so i want to keep an eye on where their at!

[peewhy]

I look at my logs on a daily basis and anylise them. I don't take much heed of PR.

SERPS is more important to me.

Google is important but I can't pace the waiting room until it does something.

I'm sure your site is hunky dory and whatever will be ... will be.

[Kufu]

Keeping an eye out for Google results (updates) is necessary, but your efforts should be directed towards having a good site, and nothing more. The links, PR, and rankings will come on their own. It really is true. I have a hobby site which gets a relatively good amount of traffic without me having spent any time marketing it. It even got submitted to Digg, and got Dugg 22 times (so far). Forget about Google.

[walkman]

I said february 2nd or that week.

[Kufu]

I just realized, not a one of us actually answered the question...lol.

I would guess that a Google update should be here within a month. They've been churning Big Daddy SERPs for about a month now.

Note: walkman...you beat me to it. :)

[Stefan]

I don't know, for me, the "updates" don't really happen anymore, not like a few years ago when there was a deepcrawl, and then a few weeks later all the new pages would show up. Now, new pages get crawled and appear in the serps fairly quickly if they're internally linked from a main page, and about a week later if they're linked from a more buried page. Algo changes roll through, and I read the fallout posts here, but my main site never really shifts much on our main serps (from number one), and the new pages just bring in more traffic. Mind you, it's a "niche" site, without major commercial competition, but we're doing well enough to have .com people asking to pay us money for links to them (officially called sponsorship), and it really helps to bring in general funding.

My rather vague point is: if you're competing against thousands of other people who are selling shoes, who are all constantly thinking of better ways to advance their online shoe business (and you're doing the same), every time the algo is tweaked the methods you used to place well before (lots of dubious links, often) can suddenly be discounted, and poof, you're on page 10. For the sake of discretion, I won't even get into the MFA sites that flit through the serps on their grab and dash journey.

To sum up this mess, imho there are no "updates" as such anymore, just algo twitches. And also don't sell shoes online (someone's already ahead of you on it).

[christopher w]

There is definitely one going on right now - at least in one of my sectors.

ps - there always is ;)

[minnapple]

If you are inquiring about a toolbar update, historical data leans toward dates from today to February 12th.
If I was in a pool, I would pick February 5th.

[vladid]

I saw immense improvements in the SERPS pretty much overnight. Gotta love it!

[followgreg]

...in addition no need to rush gathering links for this one...IMO the crawl distributing PR was done a few days ago...

[minnapple]

Google continually updates the value and total of inbound links and adjusts positions accordingly.

The length of time varies on the inbound source strength [ frequency of spidering ] once the source has been recoginized it is just a matter of the target page being newly cached in the search db before the adjusted position is apparent.

[sem4u]

A toolbar PR update is due any day now, but the actual PR values are updated continuously. SERPs are updated all the time too, but sometimes algo changes are introduced which can cause a big shift in results - see update Jagger etc.

[zeus]

yes I also think we will see it the first week in feb, because google image are showing new results sometimes.

[Dayo_UK]

Well personally I think we will see a roll out of Big Daddy - must be getting close now - people will call this an update.

But the real update will happen 2-4 weeks after this roll out - eg:-

new infastructure + crawl with new infastructure = update.

[larryhatch]

Hope this isn't off topic:

I get entirely different SERPs positions for my site depending if I check from home or from work:

...... kw1.kw1+2 kw1+3
Home: 13 .. 3 .. 2 <-serps positions
Work: 17 .. 7 .. 6

I tried different browsers (IE vs Firefox) and get the same thing.
This has been going on for days.

Obviously its different data centers. I work for a very large US corporation
with its own worldwide network, and everything there funnels thru the East Coast.

At home, I'm in California with a simple dial-up connection.

Question is: Shouldn't the data from one DC propagate to the other in short order?
Why is it 'stuck' like this? -Larry

[recar]

To larryhatch,

why don't you do a ping www.google.com to see the datacenters used both at home and work. Although I live in Spain I have got the same situation. From home I get the Bigdaddy Datacenter since the beginning of the year, whilst in the office I don't seem to get results from this Datacenter never.

hope this helps

[larryhatch]

Thanks recar! A fine idea. All I need to do is learn how to 'ping'. -Larry

[recar]

I assume you are using windows. Click on the start button, lower left corner and select the option 'run'. In the opening dialog put cmd and press enter.

This will open up a DOS dialog window. Simply type ping www.google.com or whichever domain you like and press enter. This will get you a result with the IP address. Make sure you are connected to internet though ;-)

Hope this works for you.

[sandpetra]

{recar / larry hatch}

Is this why Google beats the other search engines hands down in number of referals - it has a number of algos that determine rank and successfully swaps them about giving all websites that should rank high 'a chance a the top'?

[Eazygoin]

larryhatch>

No need to ping. Just run your cursor over the word 'cache' for any search result, and the IP number shows up in the status bar at the bottom :-)

[recar]

Hi Eazygoin,

Never mind, I think I said a really stupid thing here. Sorry.