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Dmoz importance in google results

         

Janochka

8:38 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
i have a 2word generic keyword domain (over 300k monthly searches based on overture tool),that is ranked #1 in dmoz..yet is no where to be found in google 1st few pages for that 2word keyword...

i noticed that in dmoz the headline/link for my domain posted by the editor is: word1-word2 and when i search in google with this hyphen the site is in 1st page...

any thoughts on that? should and can it be changed in dmoz?

Regards,
Janochka

g1smd

9:01 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The ODP will change nothing to help or hinder your ranking. They will only correct a description if it is blatently factually wrong. They will reject any and all attempts to manipulate keywords.

Janochka

9:17 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Would you consider it a "risk" to ask them to change title/description?

will as you said just ignore it or might even drop the listing if they dont like the request...

Janochka

g1smd

9:51 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does the change benefit the ODP in any way?

If not, then you are wasting your time...

tedster

10:27 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would add that the DMOZ listing alone cannot be the reason that your site is not being returned on other relevant searches. So roll up your sleeves, study up on what other people report that might also apply to your site, and then make some changes.

hutcheson

11:53 pm on Dec 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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janochka, there is no such thing, no such thing at ALL, as a #1 ranking at dmoz. The ODP site search has no relevance factors, no word-weighting, NOTHING to rank on. When you search at the ODP, it returns all the listings that contain the exact words you mentioned (no synonyms, no stemming!) in either the URL, title, or description. And it returns them in an order that is indeterminate but deterministic -- that is, it always seems to be the same order, but that order is for all practical purposes random. (I assume the order is based on database addresses or something equally irrelevant to any real searcher.) Google certainly does NOT place any weight on the_ORDER_ of ODP search results for anything.

I hope that clears up any misconceptions you might have had about anybody's perception of the actual value of a "first in random order" position for any particular ODP search -- it's worth nothing. And that has been widely known for years. (Admittedly, it may have BEEN years since the subject last came up here, so it's good to repeat this old information for the new generation...)