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I am optimizing one site <snip>
current PR is 4
want to achieve PR 7
how i can meet my terget
I have submited my sits in top 10 search engines puls all web directory,but still not cross PR4 applied Robot.txt as well suggest some ideas.....
thank you
[edited by: engine at 11:44 pm (utc) on Dec. 7, 2005]
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The top se's and directories wont really help you. You need hundreds of links to get really good PR.
To get good links you really need to work on high quality content. If people like what they are reading then they are likely to link to you.
You should also actively seek out places where you would like your link to be added. If you find a site that is in some way related to your site then email the site owner. As a rule of thumb realistically you might get a 1 in 20 conversion on link request emails. You need to be careful though. Send individual link requests, DON'T SPAM!
Link requests are also very dependant on the quality of your content. Webmasters will only link to your site if they feel it to be worthy. Don't expect people just to link because you ask.
Getting good PR will take a lot of time and hard work. My biggest question is why do you feel you need good PR. If you are measuring the success of your sites based on its page rank then you may want to conceder another evaluation method. Think in terms of your traffic. If I was given the choice of more PR or more traffic I would chose traffic every time.
Mack.
EDIT: Maybe I misread that... if you're saying 5-6 months to get on the path to reach PR7 then i'd agree.
There are a lot of misconceptions about PR. Neither of the above are true. Anchor text plays no part in PR. If I get one PR8+ link I can become a PR7 at the next PR update even if it's next month.
There are a lot of misconceptions about PR. Neither of the above are true. Anchor text plays no part in PR. If I get one PR8+ link I can become a PR7 at the next PR update even if it's next month
Absolutely!
I was going to post the same myself
Give or take....
You just have to remember that google's PR is calculated by the formula of the chance of a random surfer clicking links and finding your site.
I do not post here very oftent, but I can not agree with that statement.
I have about 200 or so PR5 pages that link among each other and maybe on or 2 or 3 of them link to a couple of PR6 pages I have and the PR6 pages link to 1 PR7 page.( actually only 2 link to a PR7, the third one links to the other PR6 pages)
I think there is a formula, but I think your numbers are way too high.
Just my opinion. not meant to flame.
1 link from a PR8 page will give you a PR7
Am I to presume you mean if the only outgoing link on that site is to mine?
As I understood it, the value of the PR is divided between the outgoing links and passed along thus.
Cheers, MJ
If I get one PR8+ link I can become a PR7 at the next PR update even if it's next month
That happened to me once, when a site was listed on a PR8 "What's New" page by a UK university. My site had PR7 when it was a few weeks old. Alas, it ended when my time was up on the "What's New" page.
Having lots of "little" links will give you more stability than a few high-powered ones.
Our company site has a little over 360,000 links, and it is a PR7 with a #1 position for possibly one of the most competitive keywords. That position would not have been ours if our PR was based on 30 links from PR7 sites.
going from a PR4 to a 7 and doing it naturally, will take a year or so if you have very good content or tools that people want to link to. Look at Matt Cutts site, from 0 to 7 in two months. I'm linking to him from two of my sites.
The efforts should be to get good content and create a site that is actually useful, and the PR will come on its own. It really will. There is no trick to it.
So a PR 7.5683 might round up to a PR8 on the tool bar but it's not really a PR8. If that is the case and it links to another page, the PR that is passed would drop 1 point or more depending on how many links are on that page.
Basically a PR 7.5683 should give the linking page a PR 6.5683 if that was the only outgoing link on the PR 7 page.
I'll have to admit it felt really great to have a PR7 for a while but logically I know it's much better to be improving in the serps.
i beleive that you would still have had PR7 under the older scale, but i believe they have tweaked the scale to make it a higher range;
ie my PR 6 sites are down to PR5, and yet my rankings too are better than ever - so perhaps compared to my old competitors the gap is the same or better than it was.
Another way of putting it, if you have a PR7 now, you might have had a PR8 or 9 under the PR scale of a few years ago.
PR7 from on link?,
In theory yeah, a link from a PR7 page to another page will give PR7 / number of links out on that PR7 page.
1. Build a useful site
2. Have good content
If you have just another wikipedia clone you'll never get anything but sporadic results.
A useful site with good content will get you return visitors, and links.
Not really - if you create a website that really gets the attention of people, you can have a PR7 within an update. I have done this 4 times in 5 years - difficult, but its pure-whitehat (just do something really really impressive that people want to link to! :) )
EDIT: That was just about PR - the proper focus should be on ROI - PR is an effect, not a cause.
The site was up in July, and ready in it's final phase in the end of August.
The event passed on September 23 this year, and almost all of the links to it went away, at least from the front pages, within a few days after that. Today I can only find 4 external links with the link: command.
So it is doable, even in a short period of time, but it takes a lot of inbound quality links, and a very tight site design.
If it doesn't loose some of the PR in the next PR update, I'll be very surprised, and forever regret that I didn't insist on leasing the domain to my client.
quality goes over quantity,a couple of good inbound links with the keywords in the anchortext or even the page title those links come from will get more score then just some inbound links from high PR sites.High PR is only a fraction of what sites need to rank high on google.
I say PR is over-rated, a measure or indication of possible traffic, but in no way a surefire sign there exists anything but a number as what pr means in the end.
It's just like Alexa rankings... More bs to waste time a great pr is nice but I'd rather key in some search terms and see where MY site is listed in the results.
Thou I will agree, getting OVER a pr5 is apparently a real mofo, lol!
