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Million dollar links

Will Google ban these link farms?

         

Rx Recruiters

7:22 am on Dec 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Opinions please - It just occurred to me that all the "million dollar sites" that are popping up are nothing but link farms. Most have a very good page rank due to all the cross linking, I've seen them as high as 7 - the primary one will probably go higher in time. That is, unless Google follows its guidelines about link farms and the selling of links!

We had a very highly ranked jobs site banned from the Google index (it has since been reinstated, but still hasn't recovered 99% of its traffic) - and the reason Google gave for banning it was a statement on our homepage saying that we also offered "text links for sale". (I actually talked to a Google person on a plane when I vacationed in San Fran this fall, and that was her take on my ban). We always offered text links (since we are a job site), but Google apparently didn't like us advertising the fact that we did!

So .... if Google holds true to form, should we see some graying out of the PR on these pixel link farms and bans from the index in the next update or so, wouldn't you think?

Do you think they'll eventually be removed from the index, just like all the other link schemes? That would absolutely kill the popularity of these sites, IMO.

dynamite

12:03 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm reading a lot of green posts in this thread. Just admit it. You wish you thought of it!

I hope he gets every penny for every pixel on that page. We have a war to fund with his taxes, and I'd like to think that I'm capable of the next million dollar homepage.

That's Capitalism Baby!

Team America @#$% YAH!

dynamite

12:10 am on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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...and let me clear something up:

Genius

1 a plural genii : an attendant spirit of a person or place b plural usually genii : a person who influences another for good or bad

Yes there are other definitions and we tend to think of genius in terms of smarts, but take a look at the Mona Lisa and tell me if the artist was a painter, inventor, genius or all of the above.

icniV aD odranoeL

Bidera

1:55 pm on Dec 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Shockingly, the guy is up to 820k USD now. Good for him, as the page does look a bit Andy Warholish now, so yes, you could call it pop-art. I would imagine buying space on his site at such a late stage is not a very good investment (not even counting any possible SEO ramifications). As novelty wears off, and site gets maybe 100,000 hits a month for next 4 years that will mean an average of 10 hits for a month for your site. so you are looking at 500 hits for $100. That's 20 cents a click and you can do better than that through AdWords. :) In fact the traffic might even be lower than that.

What is interesting that so many spots are for affiliates. Even GP ad (the big one on the left) is for referral, not to mention eBay etc.

And certainly there is no point in buying space on myriad of imitator sites, those will probably get penalized by search engines, plus will not get any reasonable traffic.

afterburner

12:12 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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can someone tell me if the kid did indeed make his Million?

tosspot17

12:38 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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He's on $852,000 so far.

Although I'd hate to see his tax bill...

Angelis

1:41 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Tax shouldnt be too much as he is a student...

It was part of his business studies course for university as well so it wouldnt suprise me if he didnt have to pay any tax at all.

Jean Valjean

2:10 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Congratulations for that guy ,but in the same way based upon the famous unfamous Google PR algo we can use it counteracting ie destroy our competitors.
1: launch over 20000 pages with one way links to your competitors
2:With the new link update google will notice those links
3:abstact all those links after the new update.
results:
1:competitors are flaged for a huge link increase (during the new link update)
2:red flag -next update competitors lost 20000 links.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:16 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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UPDATE
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The last 1000 pixels just sold tonight on eBay UK for $38,100. Somebody thinks that it is worth it :)

moishe

12:40 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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looks like the traffic may have crashed him, I can't get the page...

BeeDeeDubbleU

8:41 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Me neither. I hope he hasn't disappeared with his $1M and my $200 ;)

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:30 am on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The page is back up but very slow. It has not been updated and it still shows 999,000 pixels sold.

I suppose Alex is celebrating and now that he has his million bucks he doesnt give a s**t.

Eazygoin

11:40 am on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My main site has been added to another one of these pixel sites, as I found when I checked the site stats.I didn't ask for it to be added.

I hope they aren't considered bad neighbourhoods, but then I guess as I don't have a link to them it won't hurt!

On the other hand, I got a favourable link from a national newspaper into my site this week, so that should be good news :-)

oodlum

12:45 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That site has a PR 0 now. Interesting. May be a result of old/new PR fluctuations though.

...brilliant marketing gimmick that probably cost about $30 dollars a month if that to maintain...

Notice the "Hosting powered by..." at the bottom of the page has an affiliate link in it. He'll be making a killing of this as well.

It has not been updated and it still shows 999,000 pixels sold. I suppose Alex is celebrating and now that he has his million bucks he doesnt give a s**t.

From the ebay listing: "Funds must be fully received and cleared before your pixels will go live on the homepage."

patc

1:47 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That site has a PR 0 now. Interesting.

The index page still has a high PR, problem is he's done a javascript redirect to index.php which is PR0.

Don't think he's worried about google traffic and the site still shows up in searches!

2by4

2:35 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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patc is correct, you can see the pr 7 flash by using firefox google pr display, just as it redirects to index.php.

Both www. and non www appear to have pr 7 though it's hard to tell for sure.

Nice to see people in the google forums, not all, but many, who actually appreciate what this kid achieved, I do.

To the people who think it's a dumb idea, whatever, think of something original yourself that catches the world's eye and checkbook, then get back to me, sounds like envy to me. It's hard to think of original stuff to do on the web, so many sites, so many people, everyone looking for an angle or scam, so little originality it's not even funny.

Nice going alex, make some money off this web, don't worry about PR, don't worry about google, viral marketing, nice work. Proves what many have said here many times, look to viral marketing, stuff like that.

I can't do it, but I appreciate it when I see it done. I know I'll never be a marketer, but I also know I won't be one, that doesn't make me jealous, just makes me admire it when I see it done well.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:39 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Absolutely. The guy is to be commended and if he is capable of more ideas like that I don't know he wants to waste his time going to uni ;)

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:40 am on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The site is down again. He really needs to get this sorted out otherwise the publicity will soon turn sour.

aeiouy

4:28 am on Jan 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How many people can really say they had a million dollar idea?

To make as much money as he did off of something so simple and yet legally and in such a short amount of time is fairly impressive by other standards.

Does it mean he is a creative genius? Who knows. Personally I wouldn't bet on it. I might think he used up all his creative luck with this one, but only time will tell.

I know some people have bad-mouthed him because he has decided to postpone his return to college, at least until next Fall. Don't see anything wrong with that myself.

BeeDeeDubbleU

10:20 am on Jan 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I know some people have bad-mouthed him because he has decided to postpone his return to college, at least until next Fall. Don't see anything wrong with that myself.

The problem may be that he said the money was required to finance his way through uni. If he does not use it for that it may be seen as taking money under false pretences.

steveb

11:27 pm on Jan 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Lying to gullible people is not an Internet invention.

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:15 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but as far as I am aware taking money under false pretences is still a crime in the UK.

futuresky

1:25 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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oops - made a mistake in this post. sorry. Anyway, now I'm here I may as well say I think the guy has taken the media and advertisers for a huge ride. A sad reflection on the world of hype the media and its followers live in.

jgbmarc

1:40 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> Yes, but as far as I am aware taking money under false pretences is still a crime in the UK.

The site that has generated all this hype is a PR 7.. a link from a PR 7 is worth quite a lot... not nec 'false pretences'

selomelo

1:55 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I do not know if it is crime, but the false pretence is obvious beyond doubt. A college study does not require $1M. If it was his real motive, he would sell pixels, say, at 10 cents, and not at $1, and would get some 100k that would enable him to study college!

Having said that, he does not need to return to college at all with a +$1M account. He has now great ideas to be converted into money, and seemingly is able to do so. I think that he can get another $1M by selling the site in question provided that he acts quickly before the public interest fades out!

steveb

3:22 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"a link from a PR 7 is worth quite a lot"

Um, no. A link from that PR7 is worth zilch from any SEO perspective.

BeeDeeDubbleU

8:05 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The site that has generated all this hype is a PR 7.. a link from a PR 7 is worth quite a lot... not nec 'false pretences'

My point was that he solicited the money by telling people that it was to fund his college studies. If he does not go to college that would be false pretences. ;)

Patrick Taylor

10:17 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He solicited the money by telling people that it was to fund his college studies. If he does not go to college that would be false pretences.

It would only be false pretences if he never intended to go to college in the first place. The Google snippet for his site says "Aspiring entrepreneur seeks to raise substantial funds to pay for a college education by selling off pixels for $1 each." Now that he has the money he can change his mind, or go to college in 10 years, or set up his own college, or use it to pay for someone else's college education, etc etc.

Anyway, I doubt if people who bought pixels did so as a charitable gesture. More of a worry would be that the site has been down for a few days.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:15 am on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, you are probably right.

Incidentally I have just discovered that the site is down because of a DDOS attack ...

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skunker

12:03 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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He could actually save quite a bit of his money by going to Uni with all of the deductions, tax breaks, services, etc available to students.

Second best move: Buy huge acreage/home with that cash now! Move San Antonio if you have to, #1 market in the nation at the moment.

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