Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Over and done with?
All done all through?
For someone tweaking on that algorithm it's a line on the screen. For Joe's pizza it's bankruptcy, suicide or divorce. For someone else a Rolls Royce.
So? Try launching a restaurant or opening a play, where a negative review by the right (or wrong) person can wipe out your investment overnight.
Google's job is to serve users, not to keep you or me or the next guy in business--just as reviewers for THE NEW YORK TIMES are paid to serve playgoers or restaurant patrons, not theatrical producers or restaurant owners.
First off, I do understand and appreciate how you and other kind fellow members who losts their pages/sites on Google´s serps feel.
I have been myself there. Allegra (2-3 Feb 2005) took away 75% of my Google´s referrals. On 22nd July 2005 I lost most of the rest and left with only about 5-10% of what I had pre-Allegra. Was it fun? not at all. Were I frustrated and upset? Yes you bet.
>>Or else what, reseller? Are you going to stop telling GG what a wonderful guy he is? You can keep singing GG praises and keep kidding yourself that this is a good update, but the fact is the majority of people here appear to be far worse off than they were 2 months ago.<<
Lets keep in mind that GoogleGuy is our fellow WebmasterWorld member and the TOS apply for him, you and I. Mutual respect is the name of these forums game, IMO. Furthermore, I shall keep telling GG and Matt how
wonderful guys they are as long as they help us with much needed info, especially during updates, and there have been several of them and many of them yet to come.
Lets just ask ourselves a simple question: Have we been so informed during Jagger Update without continuos weather reports and comments from GG and Matt?
How many of us knew in advance the correct and effective way to file a reinclusion request before we read it on Matt's blog?
>>You keep telling GG and MC how great they are, and keep believing that they care. Google will keep pushing junk to the top of the serps, and you can post your spam reports and continue to believe you're part of the update process. With anywhere up to 266 million results for our key search terms, a few people posting reports is really going to make a difference, right?<<
Oh well..
I can find on several threads within few minutes the first 100 posts of fellow members asking Google to remove spam sites of the index. Even within Jagger Update threads, you can find many of posts of the kind.
Then GoogleGuy and Matt responded posatively and posted guidelines to submit spam reports, especially during Jagger Update. Shouldn't we all support such effort? Isn't it a win-win deal?
>>Agree or disagree, that's up to you. We're all friends here, and everyone deserves their say!<<
Well said. Thanks!
[edited by: reseller at 4:39 pm (utc) on Nov. 10, 2005]
I agree ..
Still Google that has a lot of power. It's completely irrelevant what who has done and who deserves what and who can do the same. If G turns the algo there is a human fall out.
I just state what is happening. :)
As said above someone else gets a Rolls Royce .. If you decide to concentrate on the negative part, that's your thing. ;)
It's Googles employees problem if they can live with that responsability.
An algo change is not a pure technical change, it has a world wide human impact. That is an undeniable fact.
[edited by: Ankhenaton at 4:45 pm (utc) on Nov. 10, 2005]
Yes, exactly - and I hope that I have not offended GG or MC at any time - maybe I have been a bit to bolshy (you have that word in the US?)
I know they have probably got tough skin nowadays - but I try to concentrate posts on issues rather than personalities, etc :)
>>>but I do see a Norwich hair designer in the #8 position at Yahoo
He he, Colin example does appear on all DCs.
Your Yahoo example is a tricky one to rank though - Designer and a City name are common(ish) words and Web can just be used as in Web Site.
So someone who has Designer in a City and has the word web on the page/backlinks etc (as in Welcome to our Web Site) could rank for the term.
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 4:49 pm (utc) on Nov. 10, 2005]
Google is suppose to be there to help the user find what he/she is looking for, correct?
Then could we at least agree that if the user types in "mydomain.com", with the .com, then my domain should be number 1 unless I've been removed from the index?
Some of these penalties/filters have gotten out of control. Remember the user? What else could the user possibly be looking for but my site, if they type in mydomain.com?
I feel i must go to the dark side now
Today, I return to find the same ole' conversation. Shoot, no wonder you guys are getting beet up in the SERPS, you spend all your time chatting instead of actually getting any work done!
I also see some comments which lead me to beleive that some seem to be doing the back stroke on some comments that they fear have put them on the black side of GG/MC. <chuckle>
Good grief ... don't y'all think your time would be better spent not living life in fear and, instead, be bold and create more content?!
