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change in how Google handles new pages?

they get listed but do poorly now

         

annej

12:56 am on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Before whenever I put up a new page it would soon show up on the first page on specific search phrases. I guess this was based on the PR of the internal links to the new page.

Now new pages seem to be picked up by Google in just a few days but they rank way below the pages linking to them.

The result is that a page on my site that just touches on the topic will rate well but the full article on the topic is almost lost in the serps. A homepage or other main page with linked text to the new page will also be high in the serps simply because of thetext in the link.

Is this a new policy with Google? Will the page eventually do better once the links are counted at a later date? Or am I getting a penalty for some unknown reason.

If it's just a matter of waiting I don't mind that. But if I am causing the low search engine results of my new pages by something I am doing wrong I'd sure like to know what it is so I can correct it.

tedster

12:05 am on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't know if it's just a matter of waiting - or even a matter of the newness of the page. I've seen several shifts with long established pages where the "best page" for the query is now replaced by a higher level page that links to it.

annej

5:13 am on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've seen several shifts with long established pages where the "best page" for the query is now replaced by a higher level page that links to it.

I've only noticed this on the pages I've added to my sites in the last couple of months.

I noticed some time back, maybe a year or so, that new pages didn't inherit any PR from the homepage and no PR was listed for some time. But they still got rankings as if they had their PR.

phantombookman

8:32 am on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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All of my sites normally see new pages in the index after a few days, max' 1 week.

The last few weeks however nothing new is really being added from any of the sites.
I really hate to say this but...
I think something is one the way

I have noticed something else which always happens before we see a change (I'm not using the U word)

annej

8:48 pm on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My new pages seem to be in there but ranked way below tons of less relevant pages. Yet the homepage with the link to the new article shows up in the top 5 results to the same specific search. So it's like Google hasn't given credit or PR or whatever to the new page based on the pages linking to it.

I wonder if this an attempt to do something about so many pages that are automatically spit out into the web from spammy type sites. But it's keeps new info from being found on legitimate content sites. It's especially a problem if the information is seasonal, an announcement of an upcoming event or related to the current news.

tedster

10:42 pm on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My guess so far has been that there's a kind of dial in the algorithm for outbound link text, and that it got turned up pretty high -- high enough so that many pages that only link to relevant information outrank the actual page WITH the information. As I mentioned above, I see this phenomenon even on old well-established pages, not just new ones.