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A special thankyou to Webmaster World for keeping me informed during a very difficult 3 months. It is a shame that Google and Ebay, just 2 businesses have such enormous control over the economy and control so many peoples life's.
Nick
It was definitely an update. Google celebrates its 7th birthday and this update was a biggy one, I think with more changes then any before. Most of webmasters are screaming now and pulling the hair from their heads, but it's still too early to say what's really going on. It seems that everyone from us lost in average 30% traffic and this is enough to think there's an update on the way. I already spotted some weird signs on Google search and also a looooot of cloacking/spammer web site coming out as good placed SERPs! I just want believe Google will finish it this way. However, maybe the guys are improving some new methodology and new ranking techniques, who knows. It is possible that the guys who optimized their web sites will lose at most after this update.
All this are speculations, we just need to wait until we get some official information. Obviously the guy named GoogleGuy has lot to do within this update, but there's a hope he'll throw a look into WW to hear our reactions. And I must say the reactions are in more then 90% cases - negative! Maybe they want to destroy SEO cartel with this update ... Who knows?!? ;)
thats been the goal for a long, long time.
and i'm pretty sure people from google are watching WebmasterWorld, as they always do.
Remember that they do not make money by servicing webmasters, they make money from thier advertisers and searchers, in that regard most SEO efforts are adverserial to the goal of google.
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Who knows ...
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Until Bourbonne my site had held a good position for seven years, Bourbonne wiped it out, even though it remained in the top 10, it was hardly ever found due to the indexing error.
A search on my favourite key phrase produces relevant results and I am number 1 for my business name too, which was also screwed during Bourbonne.
I have suffered for 3 months and struggled to stay in business, this update has made everything OK. I hope those who have been effected by this update recover their postitions too, but can't criticise google this time as for me, they got it right!
Nick
WOW! Finally someone who doesn't live in disney posted the truth. Spread the word stargeek, that's the attitude of the pros.
Bigmouths WILL get their sites dumped, this thread is the proof of it. Talk too much and Google WILL dump you.
thank you for the words of support.
though i feel like its only common sense.
you got yourself links from the royal navy! anyway your site is ok, brings back old memories indeed.
thank you for the words of support.
though i feel like its only common sense.
Don't take it for granted, stargeek. The ammount of idiocy in humankind can surprise you. And it will.
They tweak, and see reactions.
Judging by this thread, 90% of SEO's don't like it : so Google is going to keep it.
Everytime you whine one of their GoogleGuys gets a raise, because the only purpose of googleguy in life in a SEO forum is to be close to the enemy, as Machiavelli taught 300(?) years ago.
Context: my site is a niche content site that has been around since 1996. I've always got what I think are good amounts of referrals from Google, and the numbers have climbed over the years. There was a small downtick earlier this year that may have been related to an update, but it also may have been caused by some work I did on my site. In any case I have never experienced the wild swings reported by others....
as Machiavelli taught 300(?) years
I think it's closer to 500 years...
so the changes you are seeing are being shown on www?
so the changes you are seeing are being shown on www?
I don't understand what you are asking? Could you clarify? Shown where?
To restate what I said before, my logs report an increase in referrals from Google. A small increase, but unlikely to be random. So I agree with those who are calling what happened last week a "tweak," rather than an update. Of course, with millions of sites on the Web, a tweak could still drastically affect a small number of sites....
if you are seeing an increase in referrals, it must meant hat whatever changes have caused this are being shown on www.google.com for a number of searchers.
any idea when PR update is coming?
I think that's something that we would all like to know.
>>I agree with those calling it a tweak.<<
Good for you ;-)
Not good for the educational sites and sites with original contents which dropped out of the index or lost rankings on the serps. "calling it a tweak"?
