My site has been First Now vanished from Google

My site has been the first of its kind, I drop off Google

[sabine7777]

For the past year I have experienced periodically being completely dropped off Google. My site has been the FIRST of its kind and is in all the natural search results on the first spot. I'm just a small business, but since spet of 2004 I have been vanishing off of Google every 6 weeks or so--recently it has been more often and for longer periods. Does Google discriminate against Older sites? Are they doing it so that we will advertise with them? Any help, advice, comment from a desperate single mother of 4!

[reseller]

JuniorOptimizer

>>And I'm sure the SERPS I'm looking at are using backlink data from January. <<

Which IP of Google.com you are looking at?

[JuniorOptimizer]

I'm looking at www. And I mean this is the EXACT crappy results from January.

How do I know this to be true? We'll take the example of my main competitor and uber-spammer, who was finally derailed in June. He has over 700,000 links according to Yahoo, all invisible, all from a cross-linked network of domains. He was completely banned in June.

He is back in action, with all 10 of his sites ranking in the top 20, all with NO backlinks according to Google. I checked his source, and he removed the invisible links. So what link power is making this fool rise to the top again? This is a snapshot of backlinks made at the beginning of this year. As soon as the real backlink totals come in, I expect him to plummet and me to rise again.

[Dayo_UK]

Hmmmz- backlink data from Jan?

Well I have got backlinks that have a cache date of November 2004 - I also have backlinks in place since Jan showing.

My theory is that Google has a base index - one of these base indexes was clearly the massive crawl that was done in November last year.

Unfortunately - this crawl was flawed and perhaps the problems stem back to that time (lots of supplementals from November 2004 time too)

However, there also seems to other base crawls that still appear (even older)

Whatever - google is clearly bug-ridden - wonder when the next big crawl is - maybe, hopefully things will improve then.

But for some reason I doubt it.

[stargeek]

"So what link power is making this fool rise to the top again?"

he's obviously less of a fool in the SEO arena than everyone below him.

[JuniorOptimizer]

He's smarter than me because he ranks higher? LOL. I completely disagree.

[stargeek]

JuniorOptimizer:
i don't mean it all personal like that.
My only point was that he's obviously not that foolish if his site is doing well.

[reseller]

Hi Folks

I see heavy movements at the moment on the DCs for my testing keyphrases.

Here are few of the Dcs that have shown changes today (since yesterday) within the sector I watch. How about your sector?

64.233.183.99
64.233.183.104
64.233.183.107

Thanks.

[AndyA]

Kimkia,

Sure blows the "build helpful pages" theory out of the water, doesn't it?

I honestly don't know what Google wants anymore. When I build pages that aren't optimized for search engines at all, I'm wasting my time. The SEs don't find them! So how helpful is that?

We're not supposed to do anything in the way of SEO for the benefit of the SEs, but if we don't the SEs never find the page, and if they do, it's buried at #126 in the SERPs, so no one actually finds it.

Dumping all the affiliate pages seems contrary to Google's new "bigger than anyone else" stance. Allowing them back in would add millions of "new" pages to the index.

I really don't know what Google wants, but I'm tired of doing a specific search, only to find pages with little content rated way above my page, which has loads of content and is the only one on the Internet with this content. It just doesn't make sense.

[disspy]

Well guys, it seems Google update is still running, but I think this is its last stage. However it still doesn’t looks good for most of my web sites. 30% traffic loss! Here is another article I found with pretty cool scenarios of this current situation ...

Check it out:

myprivacyboard.com/Google_debacle_after_last__update__t2.html

[stargeek]

disspy:
I'd relax on the url's its probably against TOS here.

[disspy]

Sorry, but anyway it's intresting and I couldn't paste so big article because of copyrights, or?

However, this guys showed just a little bit different view of current things right now, don't you think so?

[AndyA]

Every result page I see on there I find myself wondering what great sites must be missing through erroneous and OTT filtration.

My thoughts exactly!

[stargeek]

"OTT filtration"

what do you mean by this?

[patc]

OTT = Over The Top
OTT Filtration = Too many arbitrary filters.

[stargeek]

Ahh, normally I use OOP for Over Optimization Penalty.
err but you mean something else, which i understand.
i should read slower before i post.

[ramachandra]

One of my site pages showing as supplemental results except index page and cache date showing January 2005.

What happen to Google Index showing the supplemental pages which do exists, pages not having any duplicate content, well inter-linked.

[reseller]

Salon99

>>The reason in our opinion is that it is not an update - it is the introduction of a new filter, and the subsequent application of a penalty to all sites that attract that filter.<<

If that was the case, then it should have been very easy for GoogleGuy or Matt Cutts to explain or deal with instead of keeping silent. They just need to post ONE LINE... something like this:

------------------------------------------
Folks! we are not updating, but have just applied few filters.
------------------------------------------

Right?

[ltedesco]

What happen to Google Index showing the supplemental pages which do exists, pages not having any duplicate content, well inter-linked.

I heard that if you have same title and description on several pages, Google will consider duplicate content, maybe it could be your case.

[soapystar]

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[djmick200]

I heard that if you have same title and description on several pages, Google will consider duplicate content, maybe it could be your case.

In my sector this is definately not the case. sites of hundreds of pages with the same titles and descriptions. One in particular ranking #1 for a keyphrase i follow.