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9:12 pm on Aug 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello

regarding this post: [webmasterworld.com...]

This morning the google account still shows the url removal as "pending" but when I do "site:" and "allinurl" searches the offending URL is gone and my index URL is back.

1. What to if removal status is complete, but (3-4 days later) hijacker url-s still in allinurl search?

2. .is site hijacked if?
allinrul search give list of sites,
*some with any redirect but have such url on the pagees www.his-site.com/blablal/http://www.your-site.com

*some with javascript redirects,
*sites without any info and redirect to ur site,
*results from web.archive.org
*from alexa com
*.sites which are rss feed from ur site

and ur-s site is listed only as the last result?

try to remove this sites via g's removal tool?

8:59 am on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi alexo

If you are not absolutely sure what you are doing then DON'T use the Google removal tool. Essentially you tell Google to remove a page on your site for 6 months (except you give Google the hijacked URL which Google thinks is on your site)

Just a few points:
-Pages are hijacked not sites
-Hijacking only relates to Google Search Results so forget alexa and webarchive
-nothing you mention proves hijacking. The Sandbox is much more likely.

Check the cache of the page you think may have hijacked your page - if it is a cache of your page then you have probably been hijacked (or copied?).

11:52 am on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Pages are hijacked not sites

True, but if your index page is hijacked, as is often the case, your entire site will suffer.

12:11 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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alexo

Here is the father of all 302 Hijacking threads ;-)

[webmasterworld.com...]

Enjoy!

12:23 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a suspicion that more sites have been damaged by people incorrectly diagnosing a hijacking (and then botching a repair job) than those that have actually been damaged by hijacking itself.
1:20 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello all

>> I have a suspicion that more sites have been damaged by people incorrectly diagnosing a hijacking (and then botching a repair job) than those that have actually been damaged by hijacking itself.

first of all my site pages are really hijacked.
first time i check it 2-3 months ago, when i check 2-3 russian sites, who use my cache. (i don't remember of site, which find duplicate content) [at that time i don't know about inurl command]

what i did at that time was

1. contact them and ask to remove this pages (which was done)
2. remove all 302 redirects on my site and start using only 301 permanent redirects

{at that time i don't know anything about google removal tool}

now after 2-3 times, i check that my traffic isn't increased and start to investigation.

1. read a lot of topics here and on another forums.
2. check the difference :

* if i type site: www.myanotherdomains.com, main page is displayed on the first position
* typing site:mythissite.com ... main page is only on the 3-4 pages

* typing inurl: www.myanotherdomains.com .. myanother domain is displated in the first position
* inurl: www.thisdomain.com -> 10-12 sites (mine is the last) and most of them url=s only

3. inurl:mydomain.com
most of sites displayed here are with supplemental result mark or url only, so i cann't check their cache

find 10-12 sites, and one of them (2 pages from this site) really using 302 redirect to my site (check headers) and this one i try to remove with removal tool.

this one i try to remove, removal is completed, but site still in index
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Iguana wrote:
>>-Pages are hijacked not sites

yes, i know .. (sorry for misspelling)

>>-Hijacking only relates to Google Search Results so forget alexa and webarchive

btw i check here on WebmasterWorld, topic that alexa is hijacking site, which aren't listed in his directory. (Mine was in their directory)

>>-nothing you mention proves hijacking. The Sandbox is much more likely.
sandbox for a 6-7 years old site?

>>>Check the cache of the page you think may have hijacked your page - if it is a cache of your page then you have probably been hijacked (or copied?).

---. they haven't cache as they are listed url only.

>>>True, but if your index page is hijacked, as is often the case, your entire site will suffer.

yes. i agree with u/.

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8:07 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi again

Hijacking seems to be more than just 302 redirects. For example, most sites are in Alexa but Alexa pages haven't replaced all the index pages. Other 302s are in Blogger profiles and furl.net links

You probably realise that the allinurl command doesn't really tell you if you've been hijacked but sometimes hijacking sites use your url in the 302 link.

I used the Google removal tool to remove all the 302s I could find. There is still one left - it uses a 302 and then a metarefresh on another page and I can't get rid of it.

Some people think that very poor ranking (e.g. dropping from 1 to 100) is caused by hijacks. I think that 302 hijacks exist but the most important factor is a Google filter based on the pattern of links to your site that sometimes gets applied.

If you can't get rid of the 302s then try and think of other reasons you might be penalised. In the end you may just have to wait and see.

8:25 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Iguana,

A hijack is actually a misnomer for a filtering out of duplicate content by Google.

In some cases Google just plain got it all wrong (302).

The problem with what can still take place is what I can still actually (with very little effort) do to a number of sites without issuing a single 302.

Seperating out what happens to a site between duplicate content, hijacking, and maybe the "sandbox" is fairly difficult.

10:18 pm on Aug 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, TheBear

the point is that you may have evidence of hijacking/302s, but that if your page now has different content, look elsewhere for the explanations.

Good point though - change your 'hijacked' pages content first

 

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