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Their search is gone completely horrible... the past three years has blowen!
They used to be great till some dishonest people took advantage of the friendly giant!
Now they have retaliated as a revenue gatherer.
I was happy with the old days (Google that is, not the manipulating idiots)
Google is working with what i would call "balance" all the time. IMHO their target is to deliver the best possible results AND earning most of it. It's a company and a company has to earn money.
No other search engine company has so much data from different sources to accomplish this task. In my opinion that is the key: different sources of data to weight results.
I can imagine it must be very difficult to take all these adsense deeptrackings, toolbar results, clicks on results for certain keyphrases, topic / word relations and densities into account to tweak the index.
But they are probably able to handle it...
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I have reported a certain number of sites many times... but nothing ever hapens... I started reporting over Two months ago!
I don’t understand why doorway pages or hidden text are not being picked up by Google!
I’m considering doing it myself but that’s just dirty! And I don’t really want to but if I have to I may have to rethink my ethics on webdesign…
>>I don’t understand why doorway pages or hidden text are not being picked up by Google!
I’m considering doing it myself but that’s just dirty! And I don’t really want to but if I have to I may have to rethink my ethics on webdesign<<
Then our moral and values are not going to be better than Google´s "ethics" at all.
Search engines come and go. We as webmasters/publishers have been here before Google and shall be here after Google for sure.
Lets keep our moral and ethics high!
Search engines come and go. We as webmasters/publishers have been here before Google and shall be here after Google for sure.Lets keep our moral and ethics high!
I agree! Our site is authority before G exists. I like the G, "for free" they give for us a good traffic, we use the AdSense and its search is very useful, but if they want drop/ban our site, I will respect.
While I don't believe Google is an evil company, I do believe it would be to their advantage to have crappy search results during the peak shopping season. This would increase their revenue in two ways. First, it will increase people clicking on the adwords ads that appear more appropriate. Second, people will have to pay for adwords to promote their sites on Google.
Of course, if the results get too bad, people will go to other search engines for their info. At this time though, in some categories, it almost seems the sponsored listings are better than the natural listings anyway.
All the inflated page counts for my sites that have been in Google's index for the last year seem to have gone away.
Could this "inflated page count" be due to ASP/PHP/et.al causing a inflated page count. I read somewhere lately that it appeared Google was working on this problem.
Re the next PR/Backlink update--the last update was July 14 and Google updates around every 2-3 months, plus it's preference for long holidays so I would guess Labor Day Weekend.
PS there is a website with Page Rank Update List History with list of all updates for Toolbar PR, Directory PR, Backlinks, etc.
Recently it has became between 50~60 in the top100 in google for its very popular keyword, fighting with the big giants of its industry and niche market, and surviving in the top10 for all remaining money keywords, no SEO fuss or cuss. I believe that this site is a live example for "a good natural listings".
Now it's completely out of the top100 for all its keywords. Ironically it even lost its #1 position for its own name. Yes, that does not affect it by any means as searching engine traffic is a low portion of the traffic it gets, but..
I dont know I am just losing faith in google at all.
Don't I wish! But sadly site: is still showing the hugely inflated page count for my site.
ditto, but that's new for me as I used to have the quality pages on top of [site: ] results. I don't know why dataguy is complaining. Isn't it supposed to be your way? quality pages on top?
Finally, google still insists on using dmoz descriptions along with meta description according to the keyword searched. IMHO, google should not count on dmoz. It has been like two months since I contacted them to change the 2-yrs-old description but no one is there, and I am sure am not the only one.
Is it a good business model to count on a free contributed directory with lazy editors? For me it's the same as websites counting on searching engines traffic, specially those searching engines that are broken *winks*.
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At present, the Datacenters look like a big mess. There is really no kind of any order or logic at the serps those junk DCs produce for my testing keyphrases.
The only stable factor I can see is listings #1 and #2. The rest of top 10 have different positions on different DCs.
Congrats Google ;-)
That seems sensible to me. If a user returns and does the same search they may well hit a different data centre and get a different choice. There are many relevant sites for the same search term and this gives everyone a potential slice of the cake.
This is a pattern I have seen for some time now. It is almost as if the rolling updates take place by sector or search terms, and so it is well nigh imposible to pinpoint an update.
On one single word search I went from 11 to as low as 22 to as high as 6 and now have been at #10 for several days. Across a couple hundred multi-word terms that I track I bounced all over the top 10 before settling in at mainly 1's and 2's, where again they have held steady for several days.
Perhaps it is now your sector's turn? Then again, I could be seeing the calm before the storm.
The data centers that you list are all quite similar to what I have seen for the past several days
WBF
>>This is a pattern I have seen for some time now. It is almost as if the rolling updates take place by sector or search terms, and so it is well nigh imposible to pinpoint an update. <<
Its a possibility. And you might be right. Thats also might explain why tigger hasn´t noticed changs in his sector too.
FYI, my testing keyphrases are related to marketing and advertising.
But does that mean that we in future aren´t going to see "general updates" but only "sector updates". I.e no Allegra and Bourbon anymore ;-)
I was doing some research for my son, about hiroshima and the recent 60 years thing. There's 2 or 3 casino sites in there about hiroshima.....amazing.
However, still see several sets of serps on different DC groups.
Conclusion mightbe; Google wish to keep in future a stable sites at the first 4 listings of the serps while the rest shall keep rotating under the motto; every site deserves a 5 minutes of fame ;-)