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How to check -->
search "yourdomain.com" from google with the double quote wrappping your domain name.
If your website is not ranking #1 then your website is somehow penalised by google.
Conditions of my tested websites.
i) Having PR4~5
ii) All more than 2 years old.
iii) No traffic from google at all.
iv) Was ranking high on google.
Does this method works for you?
Either way, if you find your site is penalized, how do you know for WHAT it was penalized? I'm sure probably no one can answer that. FTR, my main site and 2 others show first with this method, 2 of my other sites are not first but my MAIN site is 1st and then the other sites themselves are like 3rd in the SERP's (behind my main site because my main site is linked to them, and they are not related).
the sites that I think are being penalized don't show up at the top using "mypenalizeddomain.com" while my other domains that are not penalized seemed to show up at the top.
Interesting
This site is one that dropped out of the serps on June 16th.
My other sites, with much less PR, show up just fine and they haven't been affected by bourbon.
Remember that even if your domain is visible in the index it might have been put under a penalty for a certain number of months. This usually causes a sudden drop in rankings (from 1st page to 10th etc).
With this test I have been able to confirm that one of my domains came back after a 5 month penalty and another one was just recently penalized. Let's see how many months this time?
Ps. if you cannot find any pages in the Google index it might mean you've been manually removed. Go get a new domain because manual bans are permanent.
My site has been penalized for exactly 1 month, and is still buried around page 10.
I loathe the fact that Google has promoted themselves to the Internet Cop, handing out penalties and such. They really need to be reigned in. Can't some body like the WC3 consortium do something about these a=-holes?
I don't want to take any of the penalties I get from Googleguys personally but I hate the way they do it:
"Hey look Peter C, this page has Adsense ads and a list of outbound links, let's penalize it."
I know it's their index but a little co-operation with webmasters wouldn't hurt anyone.
IMO this is definitely a manual tweak - even though Google claim that they do not do such things.
Lucky guy! ;-) My penalized site (Bourbon .5 issue on June 16th) shows up on page #4 below 35 sites mentioning, scraping or linking me ...
I really wonder how long such a penalty (most probably for excessive interlinking, which I removed) might last. Anybody?
Cheers
Peter
That is because:
1. Webmaster World has higher traffic than your site. Higher traffic means more popular, and therefore more worthy of the higher ranking.
2. Webmaster World gets more page views, and therefore is more 'popular'
3. Webmaster World has more longevity than you. Because it has been on the web longer, it has more 'credibility' than you do.
The site is not penalized, and responses from Google saying that the sites are not penalized, are correct.
You have in effect been out seo'd on your domain name. Period.
The test is invalid to the inclusion you have come to.
I agree. I saw a Google employee's IP address viewing some pages on my domain and around the same time Google traffic dropped and now it's under the filter penalty (which means a 5-10 page drop). The reason for a penalty? No idea.
I had this, but a couple of months ago, google people manually crawling all over my sites - just at the time when my adsense earning were looking amazingly good for one site (now lost) I assumed they were loking at it because it had a very high CTR (without any cheating whatsoever). I lost one site with Bourbon and one site about a month later. All my other sites were untouched (as far as I can tell as they are quite new and are sandboxed as well.)
One site, the one that was doing well with adsense seems more heavily penalised than the other.
Do you have any hope that the penalty will be removed?
When I check my logs most of this type of traffic seems to be from universities in Texas, Chicago, and Kentucky among others.
What is the Google employee's IP address?
When you finally realize the problem is not Google, it is you, and you begin correcting problems, you created, Google will become 'friendly'. Your misdirected focus that Google has 'stuck it to you', is keeping you from finding the real problem.
When we have a failure in the engines, we say "ok. what did WE do now? How are we now non-compliant". That is the correct approach. Misplaced blame is non-productive.
"How are we now non-compliant"
Can you tell me more about what you mean by non-compliant?
thanks
Can anyone define the results from cache: and link:
for me?
"How are we now non-compliant"
I am curious also. I followed all of google's guidelines. They dropped every page from my site except the homepage, then add me to their directory a few days later. How am I supposed to fix a problem if I don't know what the problem is?
I believe Google is the only search engine that manually reviews and penalizes so many websites.
1. Webmaster World has higher traffic than your site. Higher traffic means more popular, and therefore more worthy of the higher ranking.2. Webmaster World gets more page views, and therefore is more 'popular'
3. Webmaster World has more longevity than you. Because it has been on the web longer, it has more 'credibility' than you do.
I don't know about this analysis. That would mean that my stories on thestreet.com and mention in the NY Times would also show up ahead of my own domain. They didn't.
You've put the cart before the horse here, Janet. The number of visits should have nothing to do with RELEVANCE. As for the longevity argument, I established my site in 1999. That's 6 years, and after all, it's MY DOMAIN.
I have a feeling that responding to you is going to be a losing battle, so go ahead and say what you like, but I seriously doubt you've got it all solved.
It looks like the 65.57.245.11 is for checking adwords?
[webmasterworld.com...]
you may want to look in google itself for other references "65.57.245.11".
I'm not certain as to the 216. ip though. I'll look through my logs and see.
thanks for the info
Maybe Google just keeps stirring the pot so no one knows for sure what is in the secret mix?
Possibly. I've long thought they HAVE to do SOMETHING like that to maintain any semblance of integrity with their users. Predictability == susceptibility to death-by-a-thousand-spamming-cuts. And with spammers active, susceptibility differs from victimhood by ... a matter of nanoseconds.
Webmaster World has higher traffic than your site. Higher traffic means more popular, and therefore more worthy of the higher ranking....(snip)
Webmaster world does indeed have more traffic, is more popular and has been around longer. But his *mention*, (only a single post on the webmasterworld site) hasn't been around longer, doesn't have more views and isn't more popular, therefore isn't worthy of the higher rank, even by your test.
In the same way the search Google Googol Milton Google should come top above all the blogs discussing Google's name.
Use this logic test to understand why:
Suppose Google said tomorrow that they were kidding, that Google was really the name of Page's imaginary pink elephant and they made up the story about Milton and mispelling Googol. That would change the reality of the 'google' name.
Now suppose one of these blogs said they made it up. That would change nothing. Clearly therefore the authority site for that information linking Google to Googol is Google itself.
Yet it comes up buried down at 40+. Its a safe but non-authoritative result set.
Answer: If google delivers more than 3 times the
traffic of yahoo or msn you are probably OK.
