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12:59 pm on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued from:
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IF this has been mentioned before, mods can omit this post.

Going to the old page of www.google.com/addurl forwards you to this url

[google.com...]

And you have to type the "squiggly letters" into the box below.

Like most people here, I don't even bother to submit anymore. Just let my site and new pages get picked up through the links.

Surprised they waited so long to do this. Some blackhat SEO somewhere must have ticked them off lately.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:02 pm (utc) on May 4, 2005]
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11:36 am on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What's interesting, is that this could have been done many years ago, and we'd probably just be noticing it today. lol

Does anyone still use the url submission systetm? If so, why!?

11:38 am on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yep too right Brett - It was there a month or so ago.

Tried the url submission to try and get Google to index a non-www 301 redirect.

The only time I have ever used this Add Url (except when I was first starting out on a Angelfire site - many years ago.)

11:58 am on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't even remember when I used their submission form the last time... in 99? 2000?
no idea... still interesting :)
12:17 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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if you wanna test to avoid the "jail" (=fnasb, formerly known as sandbox), you might wanna test it that way:

first submit the url with google, wait 7 days and get your first inbounds up.. :)

just a thought,
P!

12:17 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Your site will be nowhere if it doesn't have links and you submit it to Google. If it does have links Google will find it.

What purpose does the submit url facility serve:
- Pacify non SE savvy webmasters?
- Worry SEOs that they may be doing the wrong thing?
- Brand ie G looks like an old style (recognised) SE?

Can't think of any other reasons.

12:18 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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there could be a relation to the recent posts I read about how to harm your competitor by multi-submitting it there in the Google Add Url box...
12:23 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>there could be a relation to the recent posts I read about how to harm your competitor by multi-submitting it there in the Google Add Url box...

More likely to stop auto submitting programs that "guarantee submission to over 100 search engines." - after all they only guarantee submission - they dont care that the search engine might do nothing with it.

Some of them you pay more to get a submission every month ;)

Wonder if it someones job to read the comments with the submission.

Whoo - hoo I am a Senior - cut off point must be 650

1:38 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think it has been that way for 4-6 month now
2:16 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Zeus

> Can't think of any other reasons.

Google loves data. Google loves data anyway it can get it. This is but one more way it could get it.

2:22 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I saw this years ago...I think it's always been there. I remember using it.
2:57 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'd guess the purpose is twofold. First, it's yet another source of URLs, along with links, toolbar data, domain registrations, and who knows what else.

Second, and more important, it serves a useful placebo function, i.e., when someone says, "I just made my first website, how do I get it in Google?" it's easier to send them to a form instead of explaining about linkage, etc. Some webmasters may even find it on their own, further reducing the inflow of questions.

3:09 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Second, and more important, it serves a useful placebo function, i.e., when someone says, "I just made my first website, how do I get it in Google?" it's easier to send them to a form instead of explaining about linkage, etc.

Bingo! My brother told me he had just started a new business, got a domain and his son was going to build the website.

I offered help via a few links from sites to get it crawled quickly, and he responded with "No worries. Google has this page where you submit your site and then you're good to go. I would have thought you knew about that."

3:19 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I saw this years ago...I think it's always been there. I remember using it.

I deleted a bookmark to the G Add URL page about a month or two ago. But before I deleted the bookmark I went to the page. This was definitely not on the page at that point.

3:24 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It may not help, but why not cover all bases. You can wait and see if/when it spiders, or you can put it in the que yourself. Maybe they are taking their submits more seriously now?
3:24 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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there could be a relation to the recent posts I read about how to harm your competitor by multi-submitting it there in the Google Add Url box...

Google for "spam the engines" ;)

3:28 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



"Does anyone still use the url submission systetm? If so, why!? "

I did. I banned G from my site via robots & apache for more than a week since I was changing it completely and I wake up this week to see it with "Sorry, no information is available for the URL..."

I 301-d the main categories but it maybe too late for this round. yesterday GB got about 1000 non-existing files since I couldn't 301 them (changed case and added a - instead of space).

Do I need to have a re-include request, or just wait a week or so? I have plenty of links to my site..

3:46 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)
3:58 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Am I the only one who hears, "I know about basic [insert strange definition of SEO here] stuff, I already submitted my site to Google, Yahoo, and MSN."?
4:16 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you submit your site and then you're good to go.

Now, that would be cool.

I would have countered with "Actually, you build your site, get a few quality inbound links like DMOZ and Yahoo, someday get rankings in Google, then your site will disappear in a sea of adsense driven scrapers with higher PR."

Really, I'm telling any newbie friends to get in Yahoo, search with Teoma, and forget Google existed.

4:56 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It may not help, but why not cover all bases. You can wait and see if/when it spiders, or you can put it in the que yourself. Maybe they are taking their submits more seriously now?

GG addressed this issue. He said something to the effect that if they find it via the url submit it isnt given the same weight as finding it via a link. Anyone know the thread that was in?

 

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