Backlinks Vs PR

Which one comes first and why?

[dupac]

I have a website 8 months old. The site is indexed by google and other search engines. The site shows back links also. Then why would the PR bar shows 0/10 with white PR.
Will the PR change periodically or will it change when google does it dance?

Backlinks has more signifance compared to PR, but what does it take to get a PR?

Any comments?

[treeline]

Backlinks come first. PR is a product of your backlinks. Now, if you have good PR it may help getting backlinks, kinda like being pretty gets you more dates. But you need the backlinks to get in the game.

There now seem to be 2 versions of PR. First is that used for the SERPs (the important one) which Google claims now updates continuously. This PR value can not be seen directly, only interpreted by how you're doing in the SERPs.

The second PR is that shown on the Google Toolbar. Rumors are that this now updates 4 times a year. If so it should be due to update soon. Updating this display quickly and accurately doesn't seem to be a Google priority.

Google indexes many more backlinks for sites than they show. For a better picture of what search engines are indexing, try checking yahoo or alltheweb for backlinks. In the meantime, you should keep getting more backlinks.

Also, do a search for the Google Sandbox and learn why that may slow new sites from performing quickly.

[Rollo]

Yes, agreed. However, I think there is a thrid version of PR - the PR in the Google directory which is certainly different tham the PR in the toolbar. The question is, is it the same as the PR they use in their algos?

[dupac]

Thanks treeline for a really informative description of the PR. I know Google updated the PR like 2 months ago, so when you think next update will come. The sites we have are like with anyear old and have like 10-20 links coming to them from different websites.

[Lorel]

I know Google updated the PR like 2 months ago, so when you think next update will come. The sites we have are like with anyear old and have like 10-20 links coming to them from different websites.

Last Google PR update was around Jan 1st. Before that it was early Oct 04 and early July 04. Now it's been over 3 months since last update--so the current pattern is anywhere between 3-4 months (and trying to pin Google down to a pattern is impossible)

10-20 links are not enough. I manage about 25 sites and only those clients that gather 50-100 "quality" links start gaining traffic and page rank. the others stagnate.

and by quality links I mean passing good pr, i.e., not on a link farm, not in frames, not in databases, and the higher the PR the better.