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How Can a Site Have 0 Incoming Links But a PR of 4?

They have a PR 4 with no-one linking to them.

         

Frequent

6:24 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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While looking over some local sites I came acrossed one with a PR 4. The site isn't great (at all) in fact it's pretty much an amateur piece. However, when I went to check out its incoming links there were none showing in Google.

They have a PR 4 with no-one linking to them.

Please educate me on how this can be achieved.

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diamondgrl

7:44 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google doesn't show all backlinks. So if they had just one PR5 link to them that didn't show, it could possibly explain a PR4.

Anolonda

7:59 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You may also want to check to see if the site in question is listed in the Yahoo search directory. Most sites I have submitted to the YSD obtain a PR4 with a listing in the directory without any additional backlinks.

Frequent

8:20 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nothing in Yahoo or DMOZ for the site.

Anywhere else I could look?

The only thing I can figure, is that the site address is mentioned many times on many local sites although never as a live link, just a plain text mention.

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diamondgrl

8:41 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Check backlinks on Yahoo instead.

gargallo

9:11 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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See the posibility that the site has lost the backlinks and hasn't updated yet the pagerank... (has the old one) it probably can be a posibility.

Frequent

9:14 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo does show a couple of backlinks but since Google doesn't count them I'm surprised it boosts their PR.

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Rollo

9:15 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like somone is linking to you, but you might not be aware of it. If there were truly no links, there would be no PR.

Is it a new domian? If someone had it before you, it might still have residual backlinks.

pmkpmk

9:15 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Instead of "link:mysite.com" try "link¦mysite.com" in Google.

larryhatch

9:21 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That doesn't work at all here (California) with the broken pipe.
Did you mean the straight unbroken one? -Larry

Frequent

9:26 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Broken pipe search on Google did show the links. I guess that's my answer then. Good to know.

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Lorel

9:27 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google doesn't "report" all the links, however it does record them or it wouldn't know how to rank a site.

It has been my experience after watching links on over 25 sites for the last year that Google reports about 1/10th of the links that Yahoo reports and Yahoo doesn't report them all either and the amount of links Google reports gets less and less each month.

Frequent

9:43 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here's a somewhat related question. Why do I get different results when I search 'site:mysite' versus
'site: mysite' (same search only with a space between the colon and the url)?

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g1smd

9:51 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The second one includes only pages that have the word "site" on them and the word "mysite" on them.

Frequent

9:52 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, that should have been 'link' not 'site'!

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Just Guessing

10:38 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same answer, different words:

The second one includes only pages that have the word "link" on them and the word "mysite" on them.

spaceylacie

12:37 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Instead of "link:mysite.com" try "link¦mysite.com" in Google."

What does this mean, I haven't heard of it? When I do either of these searches for my site, it shows 3960, and 3450, respectively. Backwards links on Google only counts 394. Can someone explain? Just interested...

spaceylacie

12:41 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, I spoke too soon, again. I had added a space without realizing it made a difference.

WA_Smith

12:49 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My ears are almost burning, is it pr 4 or is it 5 or higher.

I have alot of links to my deep content those links don't show (there is a method to my madness), and I have alot of links from pages that don't show in the pagerank toolbar but are recorded in google cache (LOL tring to find them).

but it is not me I have got six links clearly showing ... I pity the competion that thinks they can try to get the same links as me to get my search engine ranking. Although I check their links often.