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But if I try to find this site in the datacenters, it is nowhere in the 58 datacenters.
How can webmasters get back into the google index?
I have had sites ranking # for "years" by following all the rules, no duplicate websites with the same content etc.
Then come January, I went to "0" in rankings and my staff had to find other ways to earn a living while we try to fix this and it just makes you frustrated when nothing is said from Google on anything about how to fix this.
For a while now, there was an insider checking my sites when I asked to let me know if anything was wrong or needed to be changed. Again, they said nothing is wrong and yet none of my sites have come back.
They all rank 5 and have exchanges or are linked too by the correct partners.
I don't know what to do.
All sites are clean, no ads, popups, no spam, no nothing just pages with a bit of graphics and text, some css thats it.
All sites totally relevent, the results now even below the #1 spot are bad.
This is the worst update i have seen for years :-(
What is causing it? Is Googleguy still here?
get ready for these comments and more from people who haven't been hurt, yet.
Not only have they clubbed me in the SERPS, but they suddenly slashed the payout for AdSense by a huge amount, seemingly.
I'm betting they announce record earnings soon.
It came back, now it is #1 and #2 indented for his term. I think a lot of sites are going to trickle back in.
However, people who were riding high on link exchange aren't going to get their high SERPs back. That was the point of Allegra after all.
Some pages on the same URL have dropped lower, but others have not moved. PR of the pages seems to have no relationship. A few have totally disappeared, but a few that never showed up before are now at least in the first 100.
It seems like Google is doing a lot of thrashing right now, so not going to panic until it settles down.
And in my oppinion I can see very bad results in the serps and I do not mean the serps in my business, no, I mean the serps when I try to find normal things in the world wide web.
For example: If I try to search for "online casino", google is showing me poker and sportbook websites instead of the clear results in the past. Additional they show me subsites like pub.xyz.co.uk/abc/def/lma.html instead of full domains in such a high competitive field. And I can see this in every business when I try to find something.
Does anyone think this is ok? :)
"Walkman" seems like you haven't read the post exactly. I've said that I always follow the google webmaster guidelines and I never cheat in any way.
Like many people a few of my sites have been kicked by this latest update. What seems wierd to me is how the sites have gone from top ten to invisible.
Granted some of these sites are kind of affiliate sites BUT the content is often original and edited. What suprises me is sites that are far more brazen, i.e. just spit out the same content from the same suppliers are still in the top 10?!
This makes me think that my sites aren't being penalized or banned.
The other thing is my stats aren't going down. This could mean one of 2 things (IMHO). People are using other SEs or there are 10 times as many people looking for my products!
That is based on the areas I follow, where such sites were doing great for a while, and now have fallen back. Not disappeared, but fallen back.
Keep building your site - build other sites, diversify in what your doing and forget about Google - if you come back you come back, if you have checked that you are within the guidelines then walk away and concentrate on other sites. Trust me there's no point in #*$!ing about Google being broke, or rubbish results it won't make any difference to your current situation. So save a few weeks and get busy, take it as a challenge and you'll soon be back up there in a much more powerful position.
So your staff was depending on a Google ranking to earn a living?
Hmm, I wouldn't sleep at night if it were me.
I have a very simple point: There is something called an Hilltop Algorithm. Google had this patented few years back and it was known that they are implementing it for the most competing phrases. I feel in this update they have increased the number of phrases for which they apply Hilltop, and hence the results.
The Hilltop algorithm is pretty easy to understand, you don't need a Phd in Algo/Comp.Sci, all you need to do is read it carefully and have some idea of what an algorithm is :-)
Google is broke its that simple.
There is nothing you can do to get your rankings back through whitehat seo techniques.
If you want to walk on the dark side, blog back link the hell out of the site over the next 4 weeks and you'll come back.
If you don't want to walk on the dark side, forget about Google and focus on Yahoo and MSN.
my staff had to find other ways to earn a living while we try to fix this
I can't imagine the look on my employees faces if I were to say "We lost our rankings in Google, so I'll have to lay you off now."
Seems like an aeful lot of panis for what will probably be a temporary glitch for most (white hat) sites that have been affected. I'd give it 8 weeks or so before putting up the "going out of business" signs.
There is nothing you can do to get your rankings back through whitehat seo techniques.
Hmmm...ok
If you want to walk on the dark side, blog back link the hell out of the site over the next 4 weeks and you'll come back.
Sounds like a great short-term solution. I hope all my competitors take your advice ;-)
I think it's already starting to sort out, actually. I've noticed more of the author fan sites that were mysteriously not showing up for a search on that author's name starting to show up again. My personal page still doesn't show up if you search for my name or the title of the site, which shows the problem is still in existence in at least some places, but maybe they're fixing the glitch one domain name at a time. The loss of a few personal webpages from the Google Index would hardly hurt its authority, after all. But it'd be a heck of a shame to lose all those author sites. I hope that the trend of their returning continues. *crosses fingers*
Right now there is this chap that register sites, numbers the domain names like 1-19 and then copy contents of others in it, all similiar in design and wordings but not detected by google.
If he don't goes into supplemental results, the I would have guessed the original content owner and other scrappers are.
I have a site that has around 30% of the pages in the supplemental results and with this update, almost 90% are now listed as supplemental results. And you can't get out of it even if you change the content completely. When everyone else is noticing googlebot crawling, there were no sign of googlebot going through those pages on this particular site.
Perhaps, the only way to stop this madness would be to qualify sites before allowing them to display adsense ads, because apparently people are doing it solely for adsense money.
I analyzed his stuff a little. On-page text content is...whatever. High density for a few keywords but nothing too extraordinary. Backlinks: I have just short of 9000, all pretty much relevant and legit. He has circa 1100. (I searched using both link: and "+www.site.+com".
What he does have, though, is zillions and zillions of links OUT. By and large most of the links are completely, utterly irrelevant to his site, like, I dunno--say if an Alzheimer's site has links to dog food, calligraphy, and blacksmithing- no connection whatsoever. But all those links out...Maybe Google is valuing outbound links really heavily now, figuring those sites are authority sites or something.
Just throwing it out there.
care to share the secret?
I was being somewhat sarcastic. I doubt you got 9000 relevant links by practicing. Maybe ROS ones yeah...
No blog spamming, no affiliates. I'm telling you, I was obsessive and did nothing else for a month or so. I used a wireless laptop to work from bed, working 16-18 hour days, weekends too. I researched everything, way down the rabbit hole. I researched my competitors' backlinks. And those backlinks' backlinks, and those backlinks' backlinks' backlinks. Every supplemental, vaguely related keyword's top serps' backlinks. Like microscopic dissection, no stone unturned, obsessively.
