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Any success indexing sub-domains? Does G perhaps not like them?

     
8:33 am on Feb 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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YesMom said in Adsense forum: ....My big tip for the day is this: Create new niche sites as subdomains on currently spidered URLs. They seem to hit the search engines overnight.....

<<< Thought it best to start a new thread here since my reply to your nice tip does not really involve Adsense directly. >>>

Really? You must be one lucky person because not only do all the sub-domains we have created not get any traffic, they are also not listed in G's index for some odd reason! In case you are wondering, yes, they are all linked to from the index page, and have home-page links back too.

The site with 45 (geographical) subdomains had its main URL submitted to G repeatedly since mid-year 2004. We also hand submitted a number of the subdomains individually i.e. www.losangelesrealestate.nationalrealestatesite.com

Do you have any problems getting sub-domains indexed?

Our main site is also oddly not listed in the G index, No idea why. Could it be G has banned it, or does G not accept websites which use sub-domains and made that a penalty? I have heard rumors the SE's do not want or like sub-domains but not sure if correct.

P.S. Please excuse me for asking this but is it possible you mean commonly used htm files, i.e. www.nationalrealestatesite.com/chicagorealestate.htm or do you really mean true sub-domains, as in the 2nd paragraph example? (I mention that because some people are confused on what a sub-domain is, getting it mixed-up with htm files)?

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> sub-domains

Nothing quicker will trigger a hand check than a new sub domain popping up with hundreds of pages on it.

5:03 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Subdomains can sometimes give excellent results.

In The Netherlands, there are many directories using URLs of the type: kw.domain.nl

(The site that "invented" the model has become very popular --over 5M visitors/day-- and has been copied by dozens, if not hundreds, of "clones".)

Now, whenever you search for a single KW in The Netherlands (including all the $$$ KW!), you will likely find three or four of these in the top 10...

Of course, you can't expect these results overnight... :-)

6:08 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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> sub-domains. Nothing quicker will trigger a hand check than a new sub domain popping up with hundreds of pages on it.

Any idea why that is so? Why would the SE's not like them? Actually, subdomains make a lot of sense. Look at how heavily they are promoted and often used by the major TV news networks for example.

7:58 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've been trying to get a couple subdomains indexed without any luck.
8:03 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"I've been trying to get a couple subdomains indexed without any luck."

do they have links to them? Other than from your domain.com

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> sub-domains

Nothing quicker will trigger a hand check than a new sub domain popping up with hundreds of pages on it.

But if there are no hundreds, but several pages in each subdomain, and the subdomains are just sections of the site, for example, instead of www.widget.net/blue/ it is blue.widget.net/? Does it break quality guidelines? Can it be consider a trick, deserving a penalty?

8:14 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"But if there are no hundreds, but several pages in each subdomain, and the subdomains are just sections of the site, for example, instead of www.widget.net/blue/ it is blue.widget.net/? Does it break quality guidelines? Can it be consider a trick, deserving a penalty?"

honestly, anyone can tell in a heartbeat. If you have one for each state /county/city it's a bit of a joke. The idea is to avoid an inspection by hand. You can say and justify it, but you aren't there when G employees check it.

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"do they have links to them? Other than from your domain.com"

Yes, but only about 4 or 5 each. Still, should be enough though.

8:25 pm on Feb 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have great success with sub-domains on G

and what about directory.google.com? G use it so why not you