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By MIA, I mean that your site is x.com, x is a unique name, and yet when you search for x, you find all kinds of weird sites above you (sites that link to you or mention you) and your site is way down in the results.
I believe Walkman and Chico Loco are similarly afflicted. Are there others?
If so, perhaps we can figure out what we've done wrong (or what wrong has been done to us). I can't for the life of me think of a single thing that would warrant the mistreatment.
I realize there are multiple threads on Allegra, but I'd love to start one that is exclusively dedicated to those who are still in the index but you can no longer find your site. It used to be #1 and now it's say #15.
Just to be clear, if you've been dropped completely from google, this isn't your thread. If you used to be #1 on "blue widgets" and now you're #50, this is not your thread.
This thread is exclusively for the MIA, the forgotten-souls who have been relegated to the Outer Siberia of the Google Index where even those who know and love you cannot find you.
joined:Dec 29, 2003
Geico already tried it:
Google is broken.
The more I think about my 3 MIA sites, the more it seems to me that something similar has been happening. I can eliminate affiliate links and duplicate content as a reason for my sites disappearing.
My current theory is that sites with a lot of links to one site are being hit as well AND ALSO the site they link to (even though my main site has thousands of links from all over the web as well). What constitutes a lot of links I don't know (number of links as a % of total?) but I think it is based on past linking patterns - even if there are no links currently. I am certain that Google has been able to identify 'closely related sites' (whether through Whois or linking patterns over time).
Can anyone disprove this i.e. say that they have a MIA site that has never had a satellite 'feeder' site?
When the last update began we seem to have made it back into Google, rated 1 and 2 for our company name again. This lasted 2 days and then we just sank.
It certainly looks like Google is broken, if not then Google seems to have a very strange idea of what good results are. How can a good result for a companies name be pages upon pages of links from DMOZ clones.
I feel extremely unprofessional now that people can't even find my company through a search for "myuniquecompanyname" (and it's not a keyword).
I'm going to start an adwords campaign for myuniquecompanyname, and the ad will be (to paraphrase):
We apologize for Google's poor results.
Click here for the real MyUniqueCompanyName.
joined:July 19, 2002
joined:Dec 29, 2003
what DC though?
After futher research on the general subject of my MIA (Finance - 19.5 mil. main keyword),all the big player-big names,seem to be untouched.
After Flordia - detuned keywords, added pages for steming kewwords and keyword pharses as well as adding related subject pages plus added state and city pages (Duplicate Penalty because of this maybe?) Also had added manufacturers customer relations pages that were ranking high. All floating in the darkness of cyber space now.
A strange Google traffic graft over the last year (until Feb.1) shows site would peak in X number of returns drop way down and start again unti X area reached and drop again.
!MSN and Yahoo traffic still building!
Sure would be nice to know problem. What bothers me is niche sites that rank so good are built in same pattern
and sh--- flows down hill, will these sites get nuked by the google ghost?
We apologize for Google's poor results.
Did you lose conversions?
We are one of those MIA sites, but we have keywords in our domain name. In most markets we are nowhere to be found. It's not a competitive category of product, so its not likely to be targetted specifically for tweaking by Google. Also we have multiple languages and in some of those we are the only supplier, yet we can't be found on any of those names.
So to us it looks like a glitch.
It might seem to be a disaster for us online, but not so! I've been puzzling over this for days, our online sales dipped noticable together with our hits from Google, then over the next few days they returned back to normal.
I haven't switched on PPC, the extra sales seems to come from a better conversion rate from direct visitors, and other search engines.
I suspect that visitors first arrived through Google by searching and after that they always visited us by repeating the same search. Now we can't be found they arrive by different routes.
That would explain why searches don't drop off over time. If someone finds a good 'widgets' site I would expect the number of searches on widgets would go down over time, yet it doesn't seem to! So I think people take the same route to the site, via Google, until they find the route blocked, then go a different way.
The longer this domain name thing continues, in my opinion, the more flack Google will receive from users.
The site that is gone is a bit different. We had the site at one domain for 10 years, but moved the content to the present site (with correct 301 moved permanently redirects) back in October. The site came back a few weeks ago, and now appears to be MIA with the latest update. Even so, Google still is sending us about 13% of our total SE traffic. I would not mind seeing the traffic jump up by a few thousand a day like it was before, but Yahoo seems to have taken up the slack and we are getting more traffic from them now.
joined:Feb 14, 2005
Seo1 is proposing aggressive link building as a possible trigger to being filtered from the results.
This is certainly true for us, having just managed to persuade a few authority sites to link to us. We were very high in the serps for 4 days prior to the MIA filter being applied.
Anyone have similar experience?
Can anyone agree with or refute this possibility?
joined:Dec 29, 2003
I can't mention names but way too many sites with tens of sitewides are thriving. I mean sitewides with 20K+ pages and all of them with just one or two anchors.
Do a search for inurl:domain.com on your MIA sites and see if there are 302 hijackers by looking at the cache of the links that are not your website.
If their cache is a duplicate of your page then your site is MIA because of the page hijackers. Your site has a duplicate penalty from the 302 redirect which tells googlebot that your page has temporarily been moved to the hijackers url.
Then your entire website drops in the serps.
That's exactly what happened to my site (automotive related). It could be aggressive link building but all I did was add a link or two per day from other related sites. Nothing shady or black hat about that!?
I can't see how link building can hurt you. I think the problem is still being caused by the page hijackers.
eyezshine I think you are right. Still looking deeper into the results.
Definitely something going on.
allinurl: pulls a long list of what appear to be spam sites that use my sites URL without the dots (www keyword keyword com)not sure if its hijacked yet, google cache does't show my exact page but the page that has the no dot domain name are returned.
Wish I could list all the spammy domains.
An interesting return in the #2 spot is a page of mine that returns a 404.
If a page or site has been hijacked. What can you do.
We have done very little link-building in recent months, although I have been quite surprised at just how many links I now have from spam or sites that don't seem to have any obvious function. I only noticed these when searching for sites that contain my domain name.
Googleguy, please let us know what is going on here!
My MIA site has this problem. There is a site using 302 redirect. I have reported it to Google but what else can be done?
Thanks for any help on this subject.
When I chech the above I get this reply:
... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected.
We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other spurious software.
We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google. <<<<<<
We have done very little link-building in recent months, although I have been quite surprised at just how many links I now have from spam or sites that don't seem to have any obvious function. I only noticed these when searching for sites that contain my domain name
I've noticed that I have a lot of PDF files on my site. They are product manuals from a number of different manufacturers. I've had them up for a number of years and am now thinking that they maybe duplicate content?!
Upon searching through google site:mydomain.com I found that the pdfs are listed and are not supplemental.
I'm thinking of removing them but just wanted to be sure or at least see what other may think of this.
They made a return guest appearance for a few days after Allegra, but back into the sandbox they went.
Still waiting on Google to start looking for the baby they threw out with the bath water.
Note: BTW - there are serious penalties for filing a fraudulent DMCA notice so do your own research and make certain that infringement is in fact occurring before filing a notice.
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Here's a template DMCA notice to get you started:
Re: Notice of Copyright Infringement
Attn: User Support, DMCA Complaints
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Sent by: Name
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Infringement Notice
Notice of copyright infringement
1: The copyrighted work at issue appears at yourwebsitehere.com.
2: The material that is infringing on my copyrighted work is located at:
Put description of how your work is being infringed (usually a block of text copied verbatim from your site)
3. My contact information:
Sent by: Name
4. Contact information for the infringing party:
5. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above on the allegedly infringing web pages is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
6. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.