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Can't see the sandbox being a "real" problem, or a problem at all. It's there to stop the SPAM. If I start a new company called Mesothelioma Lawyers Ltd you reckon I should show up in the top 500 purely because that's my company name?
Sure, the "sandbox", whatever it is, hurts some. It hurts people who are creating sites for free traffic. Many of them are spammers/freeloaders. It also hurts others. They - particularly anyone starting a new business with a business plan that relies on free SE traffic - are probably better off staying unemployed (or employed if they can find a job). Any new site starting off on the premise that free traffic will sustain it deserves to fail.
So, if you remove the sandbox as a reasonable cause for complaint, and remove most of the other whining, we'd reduce this thread to one page and those that can't even be bothered to read it will get a personal reply from Googleguy because he owes them.
As walkman said, there is no Google.com
Results from the various datacenters feed Google.com at different times, sometimes changing minute to minute. What one person sees on Google.com can be totally different than what another person sees.
There is no point talking about google.com, ever. It's just datacenters.
<and now again it seems the it-has-to-be-corrupted 220.127.116.11 is sending its data to many datacenters>
SteveB and walkman make good points about there being no one set of Google.com results, as the results you see can come from a different datacenters every time you go to Google and do a search. To see which datacenter you are currently receiving results from do a search and hover your pointer over the cache link. This will show you the datacenter number in the status bar.
As for the update, Google engineers should be sitting down sometime today to look at good/bad experiences of the current results submitted by Webmasterworld members. After this data is analysed I would expect further tweaks to correct anything that stands out. Data may be re-introduced over days, weeks or even longer.
I know this is easy to say, but if you cannot find your site easily at the moment then just hang in there as you are not the only webmaster out there with the same problem.
Thanks, had not noticed that.
Must be dificult for the Google engineers at the moment, they have opened the sandbox floodgates and now they are having to deal with the result.
I think it will be a while before we see this stabablise completely, the SERPS seem to be peppered with sub-standard results. I imagine they are now having to modify filters on the fly to cope.
It certainly seems to fit with the picture I am seeing, a great many new sites I have never seen before in my area.
and then there is the quality of those new sites..
We'll see, but I don't think Google could be pleased with the way this update has panned out so far, thats why I have confidence they are still working on it.
If you check for the datacenter this way, and you ping www.google.com in <Run> of your machine to check the IP, you get two different addresses.
I am getting 18.104.22.168 and 22.214.171.124 respectively. Which one is correct?
Just few minutes after....
Now both are same 126.96.36.199. Is it that ping command shows you new changing IP even before it refelects on SERPS?
they have opened the sandbox floodgates...
My site was restarted from an free provider last March on its own domain. It was already sandboxed and ranking lower in the SERPs but mostly in the top 500.
Since this update I'm getting more Google referers. As stated this is mostly for sites not in my top rankings so far. And it is also for my main page.
So they must have opened the gates a little bit in some way!
It may be our turn today but it could be yours tommorow. Nothing is permanent on the Internet and this includes all our incomes.
this morning I see all the scrapers in my niche have been nuked!
oh sweet revenge :-)
The spammy sites in the top serps in my field are keyword generation sites. Where there is a db that makes every combination of keywords possible and makes links to autogenrated pages consisting of more keywords.
My site rank well in the ones with #13
I guess that our sites are dealing with the same thing. I wish I would have an explication for this
Looks like the DC's with the #13 have not had a part of the new algo/filter applied. In supporters thre is a thread listing the DC's people are seeing for google.com and none of those are listed. So, in other words Google may not be feeding the public those results at all.
I suppose they could decide to go with that set of SERPS but it seems unlikely given the fact that GG is already soliciting spam reports for the new results.
I'm very happy with this update. I don't think it's 'perfect' of course. Surely many loosed rank without a real reason. But surely it's not bad at all as you want to believe.
It means that everything it's subjective.
I repeat: I'm happy with it and I'm convinced that it will be a good update and Google will resolve with it some problems.
Let's Try to change my mind...
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