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1:34 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?
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I also saw very different results from that data center. I spot-checked others, though, and they seemed normal. Hopefully just a localized glitch?
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"I also saw very different results from that data center. I spot-checked others, though, and they seemed normal. Hopefully just a localized glitch? "

it pains me to say, but I hope it stays this way. My money site, finally is ranking good for the home page (so far). it was with a dupe penalty for many months.

3:32 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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SEPR are better on the terms I monitor. Cleaner and more accurate.
3:43 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looks likee the same crap here. I posted on an issue in another thread that may be related. I'll give it a bump in a minute. Results for some searches that I monitor became riddled with course syllabi about ten days ago. I hope THAT is a glitch and not an update.

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4:04 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see a massive change at the following url: [216.239.39.104...]
4:18 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seeing significant changes in one area I monitor. My site there has been underperforming for months and is just this morning showing several top 10s.
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No significant changes (in fact, hardly any changes) for the keyphrases that I monitor.
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OK. I happened to have had 2 browsers openend on the same search in Google. Browser #1 is showing this URL: www.google.com/search?q=expensive+widgets+in+somecity

Browser #2 has a URL of: www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=expensive+widgets+in+somecity&btnG=Google+Search

The difference - in Browser #1, our 5 year old non-spammy/non-affiliate/non-ecommerce site is #4 - where it has been (give or take a spot or two) for about 3 years - in the other window it is #33. No SEO tricks or major site reconstructions here - so the changes are definitely happening on Google's end.

A total of 3 of the top 10 sites for that query differ in the 2 datacenters above, and in my book a 30% shift is rather significant cause for alarm.

As a side note, I have seen a progeressive drop of about 60% in Google referrals for the past 2 weeks or so. "Coincidentally", about 3 weeks ago, we launched a $100 per day Adwords campaign. Any takers on the conspiracy theory of a Google AdWords/SERP Extortion Filter which drops sites that advertise in order to drain more blood from us poor "webmasters"?

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My keyword has changed a little. Other forums also indicate that some people are seeing movement.
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I too see some significant changes on [216.239.39.104 ], there seems to be a big emphasis on large directory type listings.
4:58 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If by "major changes" you mean: the regular, daily minor changes and additions. Yes, I see an update.
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I see a massive change at the following url: [216.239.39.104<...]

Massive isn't the word - that's colossal on my keywords.

It also looks to me like a reduced size index?

TJ

[edited by: trillianjedi at 5:02 pm (utc) on Feb. 2, 2005]

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MTP

Agree. Just been checking over this. An hour ago I saw some deserved winners rising into the top 10. Now I see the first two pages largely comprising massive 'comparison' (affiliate) sites and me-too shopping directories.

Still seems to be evolving, but if this is google's idea of improving the SERPS.....

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I've seen a lot of my pages that were 'partially indexd' (i.e. dumb url only) become fully indexed on a site with about 50,000 pages. To me this is an improvement but in any case it's a change.
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The URL's mentioned appear to restore some normalcy in place of the funky crap that's been going on in my search areas
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On keywords I monitor the results look like a spamfest on the 216.239.53.99 data center
5:15 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Spamfest - couldn't have described it better!
5:44 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm picking up changes on 216.239.53.104 - finally the return of my pages to somewhere close to their pre-December position. Not that I'm that worried since I now get more income from my Yahoo traffic than I used to when I just targeted Google. But it is welcome because having music-related serps dominated by rateyourmusic, epinions, launch, metacritic, and Amazon was getting tedious for me as a searcher.
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yes this is not normal change! My site is not that index for all its major keywords...i had just got back my tarffic dec 26th update!
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There are changes alright. My 5 months old sandboxed page was finally climbing up to #150 from nowhere, and now its back in the 200+ position. Just when I thought I was in the push me back out again.

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On keywords I monitor the results look like a spamfest on the 216.239.53.99 data center

I concur.

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very strange. I type in one term my page comes up with current content in the cache. I type in another term and my page comes up with old content in the cache.
7:13 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see a massive change at the following url: [216.239.39.104<...]

Sorry, but all I see is the usual shuffling from one month to the next. My site is staying pretty much stable with a few "ups" here and one or two "downs" there. No major changes at all for the keywords I monitor.

I wonder if those seeing "massive changes" have any commonality? How many are affiliate sites? Are there any strictly informational sites feeling this pinch? Travel?

Is there a common thread? Seems odd that only some people are seeing "massive" changes while others are not.

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My site has completely dissappeared on 216.239.53.99 - even searhing for the company name returns nothing for the site domain, although other sites which contain my brand name rank..

What is this? This is the first time anything crazy has happened with this site and it's been online and growing for over a year!

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Liane - good question - my bad for not giving any more details.

The sector I'm seeing massive changes in is not travel, but competitive (20m results and well SEO'd). A lot of people buying their inbound anchors on this one. They are still doing OK (no manuals that I can spot).

Top 5 still authoritative and rightly there. All the rest - huge shake-up (especially on 2+3 keyword searches). Nothing to complain about - it looks OK, the searcher will get what they want - sure, a bit of spam in the top 20, but you expect that. Nothing excessive.

Most interesting thing is the returned results have halved in number.

We haven't moved. We're an authority and completely white hat. A couple of cloakers have made it through to top 20.

TJ

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ok you find a Dc that has changes ,what about
64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147
64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104
64.233.171.105
64.233.171.147
216.239.39.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.37.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.167.104
216.239.39.104
216.239.59.104
216.239.53.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.57.105
216.239.59.105
66.102.7.105
8:09 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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66.102.7.104 & 66.102.7.105 also have major changes for me.
8:11 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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my keywords are dropped to nowhere at 216.239.53.99 and 66.102.7.105
8:12 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Strange, I see the exact same results for any of 20 or so keywords I'm monitoring, all totally unrelated.
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