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submit my site to the ffa forms - it looks as if I tried to enter my own site to link farms - I've got the ip addresses of the clown who submitted it.
what to do? Here I am working hard on making sure everything is real nice and neat and everything is hooked up for googlebot - and all of the sudden i start getting a ton of junk mail - I'm out 3,800.00 bucks and sites that are so not even close to as good as mine enjoy top 10 rankings.
What's with no links using googles link:www.mydomain.com
What's the reasoning for this? I have many links out there - I've seen them many times, yet google shows I have no incoming links from other sites.
thanks for listening to me whine and I appreciate any and all replies.
[edited by: Marcia at 3:53 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2003]
1) AdWords listings, regardless how much you spend, have no bearing on your Google listing or PR. You can theoretically spend a million on AdWords and never be in the search index.
2) Incoming links are only shown in link:http://www.mydomain.com if the incoming link has a PR of 5 or above. (..or was it 4?)
No idea what to do about the linkfarm. A seasoned veteran will need to answer that part of the question. :)
Plus how long has your site been active?
2. I have never took part in any unethical doings regarding my site or anyone elses.
I am real new to search engine rankings and the craziness that goes with this - it's real neat to see others so in to this - i am hooked and look forward to any pointers any of you can send my way.
My content will be second to none - it's just a real bitch doing everything yourself and then to have someone out to get me banned really pisses me off.
[edited by: jeffb711 at 2:11 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2003]
so hundreds of pages with low page rank count for nothing?
seems odd.
Plus, if you link to a link farm and the link farm links back to you..... suicide.
Could this have happened?
Don't worry about it... As long as you don't link out to bad neighborhoods, and have no tricky stuff on your site, you should be OK. Google has stated that you won't get banned for anything that is beyond your control on your site.
In the meantime, they are wasting their time submitting while you develop content.
Check out Google's webmaster information pages - worth a read.
HTH,
Jim
How old is your site?
What is your pagerank?
What was your pagerank before this happened?
When did you get your links? What is their pagerank?
Did your competitors figure out how to post the link back to the link farm *from your site* that is required to get you the penalty?
Actually, they DO count, and will have a modest but positive effect on your rankings. They don't get reported in your backlinks, though.
cheers,
Hagen
IF you have an FFA links page on your own site, simply replace your META ROBOTS tag - or change it to read as such: <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow">
Google defines a "link farm" in a roundabout way: Any page that contains MORE than 100 outbound links to other sites. You can read more about this by going to their site and clicking on their "Webmasters" button (or link). Be sure to READ what they consider to be "bad".
As to your site not showing any links IN - don't fret about that - I have a site with ZERO links coming in, and it has a #2 (and #3) ranking in Google Search for the targeted search term. Of course, the term IS in the Domain name.
Nevertheless, Google shows ZERO links to that site, yet it enjoys a high ranking.
Methinks too many Webmasters OBSESS about links IN, and Page Rank - and in the process load their pages with Pop-Ups, Email address captures, malicious code from traffic exchange sites and BAD HTML code.
In short, clean up your site - beginning with your main (index) page - and remove anything that might be harmful or annoying to your site visitors.
Googlebot WILL notice and reward you for it.
Best of Luck!
Those Directories with "lots of links" are most likely limiting the sizes of each page, for example:
www.anydomain.com/directory/cars1.htm
www.anydomain.com/driectory/cars2.htm
When each page reaches its limit - either by size or number, the smart thing to do is to create an additional page (cars3.htm) Remember /directory/cars1.htm will LINK to /cars2.htm - which will THEN LINK to cars3.htm
ALSO BEWARE of linking back to ANY site (link exchange) if the SOURCE CODE can not be viewed - (may be a cloaked page) OR if the source code reveals a "noindex,nofollow" command in the META ROBOTS tag.
Caught one "slick" Webmaster pulling that trick - the Law has a term for it - "Guilt by Association". Do you want to be guilty of associating with a Website that doesn't "play by the rules"?
Best of Luck!
Bobmcd
Google defines a "link farm" in a roundabout way: Any page that contains MORE than 100 outbound links to other sites.
While it's true the Google makes the recommendation to keep the number of links on a page under 100, I'm not sure I'd agree that it's because they define that as a link farm.
My guess is that the reason for the <100 recommendation is because when you get near or past that number of links Googlebot's less likely to follow them all.
In fact, they make the "keep the number of links under 100" and the "don't participate in link farms" recommendations separately on the same page, implying that they are two different potential problems.
Re: LinkFarm
Isn't a Farm supposed to be a place where crops grow?
Wouldn't a Link Farm be a place where Links keep cropping up and growing.... and growing?
I don't want to seem ignorant, nor arrogant, but in Google's OWN terms, they suggest limiting the size of OUTBOUND Links (to other sites) to no more than 100 on a single page.
No where else in their Terms do they come close to defining what they mean by "link farm" - so the logical point I wanted to make - don't risk getting dropped because someone else in the Google organization may have their own definition.
Am really curious as to why one would want to put 254 outbound links on a single page. Do you really want to lose your site visitors once your page loads?
Bobmcd
