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3:31 pm on Jan 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I made a little crafts site, <mydomain>.com. It is coming up ok for some searches, but for "handmade widget", nothing. I used the term "handmade widget" in all my links and where ever I could. Could it be I put this term in too much? How much is too much? I s there a percent analyzer? What is a good percent to be looking for? Thanks, Pat

[edited by: ciml at 7:58 pm (utc) on Jan. 31, 2003]
[edit reason] no specifics please [/edit]

3:45 pm on Jan 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I expect your post will be edited for having specific URLs, but anyway:

The number one result for that term has 237 incoming links of PR>4 (search for link:www.example.com). The number 40 result has 8 incoming links of PR>4. Your site has no incoming links of PR>4. That's the main reason why you don't rank for the term.

You need to get incoming links to the site, preferably with your target keyword text in the text of the incoming link. It's not as simple as 'the site with most incoming links ranks first', but in very approximate terms you'll need to be at least approaching the number of incoming links of the number one result to compete with it.

Step one - read the guidelines carefully, then submit your site to the category where your competitors are listed in the ODP - it'll be under Shopping.

Hope that helps.

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Hi, I didn't understand what you meant by being edited for specific urls. Could you explain? I have been trying to get links - is there any value for a link with a ranking of under 4? None of my links are showing up and I'm not sure why. Pat
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Rules here are that you can't post your own URL. As for inbound links, try to get as many as possible. As for too much repetition, there are keyword density analyzers available. 10% or so is probably ideal. However, you can only get so far with keyword density in Google. You'll need some decent inbound links to get far unless this is a *very* non-competitive search term.
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By posting my own URL, do you mean in my add-url page where I post my link information to exchange with others?
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Yep. Pretty much posting all URLs here is banned, except for cases like popular news sources. Or something like www.microsoft.com, as I doubt the moderators will think I'm really Bill Gates. ;)
11:13 pm on Jan 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sanblasena,

The following links will help you:

WebmasterWorld Terms of Service [webmasterworld.com]
The Google Knowledgebase [webmasterworld.com]
Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com]

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I have been trying to get links - is there any value for a link with a ranking of under 4?

Yes, they just don't generally show up when using the link: command on Google. Try checking at Alltheweb.com to see if those pages are indexed.

While your lower PR links do have value, it's clear from John's analysis (and good advice) that your competitors have far more links with high PR than you do.

Your two best options are to either:

1) Generate more inbound links featuring the exact phrase you are trying to rank for.

2) Focus your energy on phrases that are less competitive.

 

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