PR values and ranking

Another simple question...

[ShogunTrader]

If my site has a PR value of 7 and my competition has a PR value of 6, does that mean that I will be ranked above them on Google? If so, then on what keywords? How does PR value affect your ranking?

Thanks,

Shay.

[deltakits]

This just means that you should be ranked higher than him all other things being equal

In other words, no!

You will have an easier time ranking for the appropriate keywords, but the main thing will still be how well your site is optimized for those keywords. For example, CNN has a PR of 9 or so. They don't come up under your keywords though, right (assuming yours aren't "news" ;)). This is because their site is not optimized for your keywords.

Make sense? Or did I confuse it more?

[ShogunTrader]

The funny thing about it is that this specific site, with a PR of 7, is NOT indexed in Google but shows up in the tool bar. If you type in the url, google says no show. They dont even have a cached copy.

...but it shows PR of 7.

I hope that on the next re-indexing, Google will pick it up again and give me my well deserved ranking:)

Does this make sense at all?

[fashezee]

PR you say?

Can someone tell me what PR stands for and briefly describe what it is? Also, how can I get my sites PR Ranking?

[deltakits]

Makes perfect sense :)

If the site is the one in your profile, that has no pr. If not, the toolbar will *guess* at your pr if Google has not indexed your site. In other words, [geocities.com...] will show a high pr, even though there is no page there, simply based on geocities pr. Make sense?

Anyone want to clean that up? ;)

[deltakits]

PR=PageRank. To view PageRank, download Toolbar [toolbar.google.com]

[ShogunTrader]

delta,

No, it is not the one in my profile, it is my old domain name that was indexed in Google and was dropped about a month ago.

[martinibuster]

Can someone tell me what PR stands for and briefly describe what it is?

PageRank is Google's proprietary Search Engine algorithm.

To find out what it is go to Google, do a search for "pagerank".

Or easier yet, you can click here [google.com].

;)

[taxpod]

But what's being said is that a site that shows a PR7 in the toolbar but doesn't have a cached copy does not really have a PR7. If it isn't in the Google database but shows a PR7, that is a guessed value and it has no impact on the serps.

[deltakits]

When you find a site with a PageRank, if you aren't sure whether it's inherited or an actual PageRank, go to google and type the url without the http. For example type www.geocities.com/WOWhighPR.htm and if Google finds it, it is in the index. Not foolproof, but it should help. :)

[ikbenhet1]

I have a pr3 site, which is listed above a pr4 site.

We do the same subject, he also targets on the same keywords i target.

So the pr is just a littte PART of your ranking.

Cause if it were a REAL BIG deal, google would never show a pr3 above a pr4 on the same subject, and with same relevant keywords.

[taxpod]

That's definitely the truth. PR is a part. There are several other equally important parts which is why we all wonder why we're always talking about PR!?!

[JayC]

we all wonder why we're always talking about PR!?!

Easy. Because we can install a toolbar that shows us what every site's PageRank is. If, instead of PR, the toolbar showed a number telling us how closely our keyword density was matching what they're looking for, or how much they liked our use of the <H1> tag, we'd be talking about those things instead.

PR is the only area in which we can usually know how well we're doing in relation to everyone else. That, plus the fact that both understanding it and measuring it are just a little bit elusive, make it an irresistable topic of conversation.

And then the common misperception that it's the only thing that matters further adds to its popularity.