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have you used such techniques and are they worth it?
In the last two weeks I have banned over 50 domains from my site. These domains show up as fakes referrals in my logs.
Now, the reason for this is that my site, with many PR5 and some PR6 pages is considered a blog. (It was there long before the word was even invented though.)
All these fakes referrals lead to sites with faked "terminated account" pages. The pages displaying on the look very similar, but has carefully selected wording, including the keywords that I guess the site owners are bidding for.
The "terminated account" pages otherwise look quite the same. There is a short intro saying something about this site breaking TOS (always including a one- or two-word phrase that is unique), a larger text saying "Terminated account", and a short copyright-looking textblock, also including one or two unique phrases.
Search for these domain, and you find loads of open referral pages from blogs with nice PR values, go to the page and you'll see that these sites have earned some of the PR. Some of them already have a PR of 4 or more, before they even turned out any real content!
Bloggers are getting really pi***d off by it though, and there's lots of rumble about it.
I'm just sick of these referral spammers eating up my bandwidth with almost a thousand pages fetched each day. To nobodys avail! My filter is getting longer each day, and you should see the names of some of these domains. If you though keword1-keyword2.keyword3.com was bad... Some of these domains are up to ten words long!
If penalising sites for spamming IBLs reduces the spam in there index by 10% and hurts the ranking of 1% of sites then google or any other company would take the cost when the benefit is significantly higher.
Google cannot penalize you because someone linked to you, however, if you use bad techniques like above, you will get your site banned/blacklisted and your site could be analyzed in depth by a human editor.
Google are working on ways to combat blog spam. Every now and then sites drop PR i.e. from 7 to 4. This could be due to the fact that they concentrated their links on methods that are now getting discounted.
The word for the day is diversification.
"Wiki is a piece of server software that allows users to freely create and edit Web page content using any Web browser. Wiki supports hyperlinks and has a simple text syntax for creating new pages and crosslinks between internal pages on the fly."
The link game is game of cat and mouse with Google. I have seen sites get 27000 back links using automated blog spamming techniques, yes they move up rapidly in the serps until *poof* its magic, they disappear for ever.
And that site operator probably was laughing all the way to the bank. As soon as it went poof, if he was smart, he had another domain waiting to take over with the same or similar technique. Again, this should only be used for throw away domains.
Which is exactly what they do with blogger and blogspot now. Links from comments there don't go in to calc.
Remember, Google owns blogger and blogspot. They have access to the IP address of the perosn that posts a comment, and they have access to whois. Is your posting IP able to be connected in any way to your website?
And as one other poster mentioned, it can certainly get your site a closer look for something more definitive to nail you with.
Remember, Google owns blogger and blogspot. They have access to the IP address of the perosn that posts a comment, and they have access to whois. Is your posting IP able to be connected in any way to your website?
Just because you do not do things a certain way does not mean that there are not cases where it can be done that way.
In fact, I seem to recall a case discussed here a while back where somone was spamming blogger from the same IP address block that hosed his server. He was blaming it on some blacklist that was floating around. But he also sounded like the type that would try every lame trick he came across, so it could have been any number of things that cause his downfall.
There certainly is no proof that Google checks the blogger logs, but there is no doubt that they can if they want. If you are stupid enough to do it in an easily traceable way, you certainly can be penalized for it.
Just because you do not do things a certain way does not mean that there are not cases where it can be done that way.
agreed, just wanted to avoid confusion. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think they are the same.
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It seems search engines are gearing up to fight blog spam.
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[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:35 pm (utc) on Jan. 19, 2005]
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There are hundreds of people buying links from reputed authority sites.
I assume u can buy links but overdoing it is unhealthy and even unfair.
They have access to the IP address of the perosnI had/have one of these parasites on our servers and they are crawling/posting from 1000+ unique ips.
The best policy for search engines is to simply 'ignore' or discount blog spam.
LOL. I think George W would trade in some oil for this to remove "miserable failure".
