google :site disappeard / filtered

[jonnyQ]

I ma not sure if this post is alredy somewhere but I think that most people have noticed that your site has just vanished from google. Google has recently introduced new filtering system. There are many posts like this one, so I thought I just put my thoughts in here:

1) High competitive keyword phrases has been altered. Google thinks you are spamming. If you have example "real estate" and you were top ten, now you may find yourself in thousands...maybe even gone.

2) This filter does not affect page or site value. Rusult is lower rankings. That is your PR remains the same.

3) New flitering system or algorithm is looking for more natural content on you site so you will be not able to dominate a keyword. Spammers use this technique to get the highest listings possible. Google tries to prevent that.

4) This is a new step for google and filter is still going through many web-sites. Some web-sites may re-appear back withinh few days.

PROBLEMS:

With this new filter so far I was unable to get what I want. Some sites came up that are not relevant at all. I use keywords on my web-site which are high competetive keywords, but they are relevant to my industry..well google punished me becuse they think I am spamming.

You need to have a properly optimized site so search engine can get your keywords phrases, google decided that this is spam...I wonder what kind of genius at google decided that.

SOLUTION:
Well what I heard is that you need to replace your high competitive keywords with a non-sense one and your site will re-appear in the same spot. I haven't tried this yet.

[DerekH]

SOLUTION:
Well what I heard is that you need to replace your high competitive keywords with a non-sense one and your site will re-appear in the same spot. I haven't tried this yet.

And who told you that? Your competitor?

Wow - getting to be number one by taking away the words that made the site number one?

I think someone is pulling your leg.

Then again, you said you hadn't tried it. On this list, we appreciate the results of experiment so much more than conjecture.
Why not try it and report back.
DerekH

[LostOne]

"replace your high competitive keywords with a non-sense one"

I've seen it happen. Who knows what works thesedays. Just did a few keyword phrase seaches and found one site that was taken down five months ago showing on Google. Revelant--LOL

More like dazed and confused.

[Symbios]

Well if thats what it takes then G must be very sick.

[BillyS]

I searched google for the word "debt" figuring that would be a pretty competitive term. The number one position is held by a national debt clock. There are 759 words on the page and the word "debt" appears 32 times.

That is a rate of 4.2%, which seems pretty spammy to me. How does that match up against your theory on a new google filter?

[dmedia]

I think .. er, make that, some personal quasi-empirical evidence has suggested that .. part of the filter looks for total number of pages on the site .. (say a threshold of whatever, 10,000 for example) .. has become part of the "looks like doorway spam" filter ..

Meanwhile .. if these spammy-looking doorway pages are database generated with simple "insert the phrase here" style .. then double filter whammy ..

Meeeeeeanwhile .. natural looking links in (real links from non-related on-topic sites) can flip the switch back in your favor ..

Conjecture yes, but I've experienced something that seems to fit this ..

[olvio]

I rather see keyword url + keyword title + keyword rate url + keyword tell a friend + keyword heading tag penalty. At least on some of my sites it was so and their kistings are nowhere. Some sites without keyword in url and title just in heading tags have not been affected.

[Receptional]

I searched google for the word "debt" figuring that would be a pretty competitive term. The number one position is held by a national debt clock.

All hail to Google then - they have achieved complete relevency whilst stuffing every attempt possible at manipulating results for personal gain.

Not often that specific examples get onto WebmasterWorld but that one does go to show that one person's idea of "spammy" is another person's idea of a "great result" on Google. A completely non-commercial site at the top of one of the most sought after phrases.

Bravo Google!

It might just be to do with the 7500 inbound links with anchor text from really useful websites though...

[walkman]

"I searched google for the word "debt" figuring that would be a pretty competitive term. The number one position is held by a national debt clock. There are 759 words on the page and the word "debt" appears 32 times. "

what if G adds other factors such as anchor etc. in assesing any penalties? Example: If the word debt is mentioned 4 billion times on your page and 99% of the anchors are "debt" (and it's not your domain name) you may trip a filter. Just giving an example...no one is sure obviously.

[jk3210]

>>Not often that specific examples get onto WebmasterWorld but that one does go to show that one person's idea of "spammy" is another person's idea of a "great result" on Google. A completely non-commercial site at the top of one of the most sought after phrases. Bravo Google! <<

Bravo, indeed. I've also seen this Google behavior work IN FAVOR of commercial sites, which makes me wonder if maybe Google adds some sort of adjustment for the historical popularity data it has when a search term could be taken numerous ways.