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oziii

2:14 am on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed this past week that when I do a site:mydomain.com query that my site I no longer get any results. Its the same whether I do site:example.com, site:www.example.com or site:http://www.example.com

My other domains are producing results with no problems.

Is this connected to the update perhaps? Any thoughts?

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pipster2004

7:14 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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one of my main sites has done this in the last few days - now showing absolutely no google traffic...
going from some 192,000 pages to zero!

been tracking it using our tracking web-site , haven't seen anyother sites do it though!

zeus

7:21 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have notised a few times, where I did a site:mydomain and no results, but next day they where back, so it could be another bug on Google

kushmania

7:24 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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check out my theory on this post [webmasterworld.com...] keep in mind that it's just an opinion

kushmania

7:27 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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check out my theory on this post [webmasterworld.com...] keep in mind that it's just an opinion
Here's a theory that I have. From the changes I've observed (on one of my keywords). The number one has been up there for a while, and in the industry it means big bucks. Now that they are gone, all the money they made is going into PPC in this costly industry. This has happened to me before (2 times) and ofcourse I got into the costly ppc ads. IMHO this is business for G, help you make the money then "sandbox" you so you can, in return, stuff your income into their ppc system. G SERPS natural? Sandbox? I call it business! You make it, they take it.

eskipii

7:43 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Have you changed site software recently?

We had this happen on the end of November, we disappeared completely from Google. (MSN and Yahoo, no problem)

Then a couple of days later we started appearing but the pages being displayed are from April 2004 (it was our old shopping cart system instead of the new one that had been working since Spring 2004). AND picked up by Google since then.

I emailed Google and asked what happened...
I thought maybe the duplicate content penalty was being applied to our site as I read here it has happened to others.

At first there were some automated replies and I asked again. Finally they told me that it there was no penalty. And that changes are between 6-8 weeks so we needed to wait. Now more than a month later (week 5) and still almost no traffic from Google. Now the last thing I noticed was that in the Google Directory, if I search for our site in the category its listed under, it wont appear, even though it is listed there. Finally it was placed at the bottom of the directory page. No Green Bar, just a missing pixel image.

The Pagerank still shows like always, so I haven’t seen a change there, but in the results page basically nothing.

Our Adwords did go up.
I'm just glad Yahoo and MSN are here.

If things start to change I'll let you know.

Best of luck...

endomorph1

7:43 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ozii,

See my thread here -

[webmasterworld.com...]

I just got mine back after nearly 6 months.

You have to hammer them and hammer them to get a result, it worked for me.

A hint though. Try a search "allinurl:www.mydomain.com" and see if there is any trace of your site.

Good luck.

dazzlindonna

8:16 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Try the site: command on different datacenters. In this latest update, where one of my sites got knocked down, the site: command shows nothing in some datacenters, and shows normal results in others. (allinurl: command shows everything as normal). I don't know what it means, but it is definitely a new, disturbing problem - I just wish I knew if it was a bug, or a penalty.

pipster2004

9:59 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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allinurl:www.mydomain.com

shows no results either,

will probe the data centres next!

oziii

3:03 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've still got the same issue.

link:domain.com works
inurl:domain.com works

but site:domain.com doesn't work.

Traffic is still about 20-30% of what it was and SERPs have disappeared on most of the keywords I was tracking.

I too wondered if it was something to do with duplicate content as I've found a few sites hijacking some of my stuff - but its all just speculation.

Will email google I guess and get in the queue to get it looked at.

oziii

3:04 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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btw - no we havn't changed any of our software recently. The site has seen steady growth for 18 months and then over night a couple of weeks ago it was like a bomb hit it.

minnapple

3:46 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google has changed lately.

A site owner called me and said their site was cut off a the knees.

Only 15 pages still existed even though they had several hundred unique product pages.

In this case it looks like a server issue, the last page listed had a cache date of Dec 31, 1969 23:59:59 GMT.

Lately I feel like I have become a google furnace repairman. Sites have been losing heat suddenly for a variety of reasons that did not seem to matter before.

My take is that google has shortened it's patience.

Before: You have a bad data feed, we will check back soon.
Now: You have bad data feed, bye bye and see ya later.

Before: You have bad data, we will skip over the bad data and look at the rest.
Now: You have bad data, bye bye and see ya later

Before: I see alot of common code and content here, yet I will look futher for unique content.
Now: I see alot of common code and content here, bye bye and see ya later

Giga1

7:04 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You guys screwing around with subdomains at all? I'm noticing a negative pattern with Google, subdomains, MULTIPLE PAGES, and a overall site penalty...

dazzlindonna

1:30 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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no subdomains for me.

Giga1

5:47 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You must then have over 2,000 pages, and each of them posses somewhat similar content, that is the only other thing that fits the penalty pattern. Or do your pages have more than 100 links on them?

dazzlindonna

6:25 pm on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You must then have over 2,000 pages, and each of them posses somewhat similar content, that is the only other thing that fits the penalty pattern.

No.

Or do your pages have more than 100 links on them?

No.

The only thing I have seen in terms of dup content is that a competitor copied my meta description (and the competitor took my place in the rankings). I can find no other dup content anywhere. I have since changed my meta desc to see what happens. So far, nothing.

pipster2004

6:35 pm on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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possible another "theory"

the site I had stripped from google had a search engine feed on the pages...

could it be possible, that google is now stripping competitor data? (if they see links to these domains!?)

Giga1

7:47 pm on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Did you have hundreds or even thousands of pages with only the search engine feed differentiating each page? I really believe the majority of what we've seen disapear is related to a duplicate content filter, that was just recently applied to the index. I firmly believe the majority of these "banned" or dissapearing sites have fallen victim to what google decides as duplicate content, ie if the site's total bulk pages equals over 60% duplicate content, then spam, therefore ban site..

pipster2004

11:49 am on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Mainly, but also having some inserted content on some.

JuniorOptimizer

1:13 pm on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Fake search engines" are faring very poorly these days. Seems Google is upping the bar concerning what "content" is.

dazzlindonna

4:44 pm on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If that is the problem, then somehow my site got inadvertantly caught up in it. 22 page site - all original content. No duplication of anything whatsoever. No fake search engine cr*p. However, a competitor (the one that replaced the site in the rankings), copied my meta description tag exactly. Now, normally, I would say that there's no way this would get caught up in a dup filter, but maybe it did. It's the only duplication I can find. (Used copyscape). If this is a dup filter, then maybe Google has turned the knob too far to the right.