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Re inclusion Request (Expired Domain)

         

jdhuk

8:01 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Submitted 15 days ago no response. Should i submit again?

Is there any certainty that expired domains which have been purchased by a new owner with new content will eventually get indexed? As long as the pages are clean and spam free etc?

BTW I used the search option above and found some really interesting and helpful threads on this subject just not my pacific questions answered :)

DerekH

9:12 pm on Dec 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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15 days isn't a huge amount of time...
But...

I submitted two recently...

One had the subject reinclusion request - it was dealt with

The other had the correct British English (I *hate* having to say that!) spelling re-inclusion request - it was ignored...

I suspect Google filters out their inbox, but uses an incorrect algorithm to do so, at least as far as us Brits are concerned.
DerekH

Powdork

9:31 pm on Dec 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I turned one in on the 4th, got the automated reply saying I would hear back from a real person soon. Still nothing.

I would try replying to the automated reply, but I'm gonna wait more.

cabbie

10:31 pm on Dec 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't hold your breath.some people have reported success with a reinclusion email but I suspect that there were not highly commercial domains.
Its anyones guess how long is googles expired domain penalty this time.My guess is 11-12 months.This was the time it took last time they had a full assault on expired domains.

Powdork

10:38 pm on Dec 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As far as I can tell the domain I registered in June of this year was last used in 2002. I moved the content of one of my other sites to this newly acquired domain and used a 301 redirect from the old directory to the new domain. Google does not seem to be giving me any credit from the links that were 301'd to the new domain. My only guess is that they think the 301'd links are the result of links to the domain from it's previous owner back in 2002, which they are not.

rfgdxm1

2:16 am on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Don't hold your breath.some people have reported success with a reinclusion email but I suspect that there were not highly commercial domains.

And why should whether the domain name is commercial or not be relevant?

>Its anyones guess how long is googles expired domain penalty this time.My guess is 11-12 months.This was the time it took last time they had a full assault on expired domains.

According to Googleguy, there is no such thing as an expired domain penalty. The way it is supposed to work is that if someone buys an expired domain name, it is just that links to that domain that were up before the new owner bought it would not be counted. Only links that were acquired after the expired domain name was bought would be counted. There is the possible scenario that there could be a problem if the domain name had acquired a penalty due to shady SEO practices by the former owner, and that the penalty might carry over even after the domain name expired and was acquired by someone else. However, the OP didn't mention anything that would suggest this was the case with his domain.

cabbie

3:07 am on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>>According to Googleguy, there is no such thing as an expired domain penalty. The way it is supposed to work is that if someone buys an expired domain name, it is just that links to that domain that were up before the new owner bought it would not be counted<<<<

Whatever the hypothesis,this is not the reality.

Unfortunately,Google places a index ban on all expired domains of certain tlds that it is aware of.

As for some domains being let back in with their pagerank from reinclusion requests, I only go by what some posters here have written.
As for the fact that it might be nonconmmercial sites,this is only my conjecture.I know and google knows that many people buy expired domains to take advantage of the link pop whether the links are relevant or not.I surmise that if google does let some back in they probably deduce that there was no such intention.

Powdork

8:14 am on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it is just that links to that domain that were up before the new owner bought it would not be counted.
Which brings up my problem. It seems as though Google is counting the links from my 301 redirect as preexisting links. Of course its hard to tell since the link: command doesn't work and Google isn't handling the 301's properly and there is that sandbox thingy.
Other than that Google's doing great.

Not!

jdhuk

6:40 pm on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Had a response from Google and my query has been passed over to the engineers.

Now I guess its just a waiting game to see if they will re include my domain that I really don't want to give up as it reflects what the content is about and is easily remembered. (It would be a shame to scrap it and start again)

Google does not owe me anything and I have no right to have this re included. However I believe if the content it points to is spam free well written and a good resource for its product it deserves a chance. This would of course also apply to the many other people waiting to see if there domain(s) will be re indexed through purchasing an expired domain.

PPC looks like the only option whilst waiting for free search results in Google but at 50p (dollar) a click for page 1 results it kinda makes you wish they would re include the domain a little faster :)