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If I have a PR5 site and I link to a new site of mine and it gets a PR4, I can assume it passes PR (provided the PR5 is the only link). What other ways are there to verify a site can pass PR, specifically a site not owned by me where I can do experimentation?
Whoever told you this is obviously talking out of the wrong end.
Unless, of course, he/she is one of the 20 Google engineers with access to the algorithm.
If I have a PR5 site and I link to a new site of mine and it gets a PR4, I can assume it passes PR (provided the PR5 is the only link).
Yes. It sounds logical.
Sounds a bit strange to me.
But why would some webpages pass PR and some don't?
A page may not pass PR if it's been penalised (e.g. for selling links). A link may not pass PR if it uses a redirect script.
I think they're the main two issues.
I was told today by a guy he was one of 20 people in the world who could tell if a site is able to pass PR or not.
You might want to break the bad news to him gently.
What other ways are there to verify a site can pass PR, specifically a site not owned by me where I can do experimentation?
1. Pages pass PR, not sites.
2. If a page is ranking well within its topic the probability is it's not penalised (the sandbox may throw accuracy off a little here, but generally gut instinct will tell you the rest anyway).
3. Have a look at the page source. If the meta tag "NOFOLLOW" is not present and,
4. If the link is a straight html link and not shrowded in javascript or a redirect of some kind then it will probably pass PR.
TJ
I was told today by a guy he was one of 20 people in the world who could tell if a site is able to pass PR or not.
And what does he want for sharing this gift?
Oh yeah I take cash only in used notes.
3. Have a look at the page source. If the meta tag "NOFOLLOW" is not present.....
... then it will probably pass PR.
it means this page should not be indexed or the links on the page to be followed by robots.
Vimes.
Also, could frames have an affect? Ie where your site opens within there's. Possibly not.
<i frames> and javaScript definite no-no for passing PR.
I was told today by a guy he was one of 20 people in the world who could tell if a site is able to pass PR or not.
Can you explain this please: What are we looking for when we view the Page Cache? Every time I look at cache there is 0 PR.
Often sites have links pages that are PR0 because they are new. I always check to see if google has a cache of the page and also how old it is.
I have seen cases where what you are seeing in your browser, isn't anything like what google sees according to the cache!
Suggy
[aleksika.com...]
But I wonder how they determine which is a 'bad neighbourhood'?
Steve
This is not necessarily so. Many high PR sites do well in the serps but have an invisible penalty meaning they cannot pass PR on to other pages.
If I have a PR5 site and I link to a new site of mine and it gets a PR4, I can assume it passes PR (provided the PR5 is the only link). What other ways are there to verify a site can pass PR, specifically a site not owned by me where I can do experimentation?
Check their robots.txt file - if it bans googlebot, the page won't get indexed and won't pass pagerank.
Check for the robots meta tag in the page...if it has a noindex, google won't measure the link.
Check the link they've used with a header checker such as [searchengineworld.com...] - if it returns a status code 302, then the link won't pass pagerank, yet. If it returns a 200 or 301, then it will pass Pagerank.
i.e domain.com/robots.txt?
I check quite often but most don't seem to have this file.
Steve
so a penalized site still could have some PR according to the toolbar?
Yes.
The webmaster is willing to sell it to me for about 600 US $ & i was wondering if its worth buying since i could get pr on my new site from it.
Content and traffic is low. But It has a listing in yahoo and dmoz.
eddy
I always check to see if google has a cache of the page and also how old it is.
Also, check to see if their link page is even in the cache. I've seen link pages that show pr3 in toolbar but empty in cache -- even without the noindex.
Also, check to see if their link page is even in the cache. I've seen link pages that show pr3 in toolbar but empty in cache -- even without the noindex.
OK, so if I exchange links with somebody and the page where they have placed my link has PR but isn't cached by Google what should I make of this?
Steve
Are you basing the PR on what the toolbar says. I don't think you can always rely on that. Isn't it 'guestimated' sometimes?
